lilmarcat wrote:
The average player AC is around 60, so aiming for 50 buffed AB should be plenty enough to hit most people.
I must be doing something very very wrong if 60 AC is "average". I mean.... a STR based char with all +5 gear AND haste AND somehow casting mage armor on themself can get 60 AC, but... I don't believe that to be "average". Even a dexer is just at 60 without the extras.
Though... I'm listening, would love to know how these things are achieved.
Oh, while we're at it, that "Mid to high 50's AB" also... Unless again, you mean a maxed out Earth Genasi WM who gets 52 AB right off with a +5 weapon, then add aid and bless, warcry, battletide and divine favor and sure... you can get 59 AB. However, that's not realistic to say they have 59 AB.
If that applies, then that dexer can get....
15 BAB +5 from epic
15 dex mod
That's 35 right there.
Hmm, +5 weapon is 40.
Focus, Epic focus and Epic prowess makes that 44
Aid, bless, warcry, battletide and divine favor make it.... 51.
Even dual wielding, that's 49 or... with medium weapons... 47.
Point being... we can make numbers look however we want. But if somone tells me they get 80 AC, my question is... how many contortions do you have to do to get it? How long does that last? If it's 20 seconds of 80 AC and 60 AB because you had to use so many spells, potions and widgets to get there... it's not really those numbers.
Ok... I need more coffee, rant over.