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Author:  bobofwestoregonusa [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 15:38 PM ]
Post subject:  DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
NORMIES GTFO DON'T JUDGE ME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


BUILD NAME: 50 FUCKING STRENGTH WM WHO USES GOD DAMN DAGGERS AND YOU BETTER NOT MAKE FUN OF HIM FOR IT OR HE WILL GIVE YOU A SWIRLY YOU NERD
CLASS SPREAD: 5 BARD/12 RDD/ WM 13
RACE: HUMAN EARTH GENASI (STOP JUDGING ME RP SNOBS)
STAT ALLOCATION:

  • STR 20 (GET FUCKING SWOLE)
  • DEX 13
  • CON 8 (Becomes 10 after subrace and 12 later in the build - sacrifices have to be made for GAINS)
  • INT 14 (SKILLS TO PAY THE BILLS)
  • WIS 8 (Becomes 6 WHAT ARE YA'?! FUCKIN' CASUAL!?)
  • CHA 11 (Becomes 9 after subrace and 11 again during RDD levels again. We suspect this build is on the spectrum somewhere)

PRE EPIC SPREAD: BARD 5/RDD 7/WM 8
1-5 BARD
6-12 RDD
13-20 WM

21-30 HOWEVER YOU WANT JUST PLACE YOUR FINAL RDD LEVEL AT 30

1 Dodge, Expertise
3 Weapon Focus: Dagger (ARE YOU SAYING MY WEAPON IS SMALL BECAUSE I WILL LIFT YOUR HOUSE)
6 Mobility
9 Spring Attack
12 Whirlwind Attack
15 Improved Critical
18 Blind Fight (NOBODY IMP INVISES FROM ME)

21 Epic Weapon Focus (THE ONLY REASON TO TAKE EPIC LEVELS)
24 Great STR I
27 Great STR II
30 Great STR III (WE DON'T NEED NO WUSSY FOCUSES)
WM 13 Epic Prowess (CAN ALSO BE SUBSTITUTED FOR ARMOR SKIN IF YOU'RE A FUCKING CASUAL WHO THINKS 50 AB IS ENOUGH)

GEARING THIS BASTARD UP
  • HELMET: Djinn Hemet +3 CON/Whatever, energon acceptable substitute
  • CLOAK: Cloak of Fortitication +4 (THE ONLY CLOAK IN THE GAME)
  • CHEST: Chainmail +4 AC/+2 STR, +1 CON (WE ARE NOT A CASTER BUILD AND REFUSE TO PRETEND TO BE)
  • AMULET: +4 AC, +2 STR
  • BRACERS: Djinn Spellcraft Bracers +15 Spellcraft/+2 STR(+3 AGAINST MAGIC? SURE)
  • BELT: +2 STR/+3 Universal Saves (I DON'T REMEMBER HOW TO GET THIS BELT I HIT STUFF OKAY?)
  • RING 1: Gills +2 STR/+3 Fort (USED BY EVERY BUILD EVER) (TURN THIS NERD INTO A RING OF EVASION IF YOU CAN AND NEVER FEAR ANYTHING EVER)
  • RING 2: +2 STR/ +3 FORT (WHAT'S THAT? MYTHALS? ALRIGHT LET'S GET A JOB SYSTEM RING WITH COOL DESCRIPTIONS OF MY FUCKING MUSCLES)
  • BOOTS: Boots of the Broken Ones +5, +5 AC/+3 Dex (LOOK I NEED THIS DEX FOR AC DON'T JUDGE ME)
  • SHEILD: +4 AC/+2 CON

    NAKED SAVES:
    Fortitude: RDD 7 +5, Bard 5: +1, WM 8 +2, Epic +5, CON 1 (TOTAL: 14)
    Reflex: RDD 7: +2, Bard 5: +4, WM 8: +6, Epic: +5, DEX + 1 (TOTAL: 18/)
    Will: RDD 7: +5, Bard 5: +4, WM 8: +2, Epic: +5, WIS: -2 (TOTAL 14/21 SPELLCRAFT)

    GEARED SAVES:

    Fortitude: RDD 7 +5, Bard 5: +1, WM 8 +2, Epic +5, CON +4, Cloak: +4, Belt: +3, Rings: +6, Spellcraft: +7 (TOTAL: 35, 38 IF YOU POTION/42 V. SPELLS)
    Reflex: RDD 7: +2, Bard 5: +4, WM 8: +6, Epic: +5, DEX +3 , Cloak +4, Belt: +3, Spellcraft: +10 (TOTAL: 27/ 37 vs spells)
    WILL: RDD 7: +5, Bard 5: +4, WM 8: +2, Epic: +5, WIS: -2, Cloak: +4, Belt: +3, Spellcraft: +10 (TOTAL: 21/31 vs spells - DON'T JUDGE ME I COULDN'T THINK OF MORE ROOM FOR IT ON LESS SLEEP)

    AC: 49 (51 IF YOU'RE A CASUAL WHO TAKES ARMOR SKIN - REMEMBER THIS IS +4 GEAR)
    HP: 424
    AB: 51 (50 IF YOU'RE A LOSER WITH ARMOR SKIN WHO LIKES TO SURVIVE STUFF)
    Damage: (ASSUMING YOU GET A WARFORGED DAGGER)
    • Normal: 27-40
    • With Flame Weapon: 28-48
    • Normal Crit: 82-128
    • Flame Weapon Crit: 85-152

CLOSING STATEMENTS

  • DON'T JUDGE ME FOR POSTING THIS ABORTION
  • GETS RELATIVELY NORMALISH AC BUT 50 STR IN GEAR AND I CAN EAT YOUR GOD DAMN HOUSE
  • WINGS/SCALES - SHOW IT TO YOUR FRIENDS ON FA
  • EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS DESERVES TO BE JUDGED BUT I MADE IT ANYWAY
  • SINCE YOU'RE DAGGER FOCUSED USE THE DUELISTS PARRYING DAGGER FOR EXTRA DPS WHEN YOU WANNA PRETEND YOU'RE NARUTO
  • YOUR POTIONS WILL MEAN SHIT ALL TO EVEN THE MOST BASIC DISPELLING
    • SO YOU HAVE GOOD SAVES FOR GOOD REASONS
      • BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE
        • FUCKING MUSCLES
Author:  Naivatkal [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 16:15 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
No.

Removing your access privs to life now.

kthxbai
Author:  bobofwestoregonusa [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 16:17 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
Naivatkal wrote:
No.

Removing your access privs to life now.

kthxbai


Warranted
Author:  Tarnus [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 16:28 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
Image
Author:  Commie [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 16:30 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
35 fort is about 8 less then you need these days

gear more fort
Author:  The1Kobra [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 16:46 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
Having projected this build a few times,

I can usually say that it's not worth it, it's better to make a regular WM or a regular RDD, but WM needs too many feats for a bard/RDD to function. Plus, this build gets only crossclass tumble, largely negating RDD's AC bonus. It doesn't get devcrit negating the big boon of RDD's STR bonus with their DC 43+ devcrits.

That said, I strongly recommend going 8/15/7 instead of 5/12/13. Getting 13 WM only gets 1 more AB over 7, you'll get the same number of feats, you'll get +1 AC, +2 CON, and SR from 15 RDD, and you'll get the tumble dump, meaning you're getting a ton more defensive advantages and more HP for 1 AB.

As for epic feats, you get 5 total. You want EWF, Armor skin, and epic prowess, getting your STR overhigh isn't that manditory since it's not helping your devcrit DC. It helps your damage but fighter's EWS gets more of that. 2 great STR feats means you can drop starting STR by one and pad out your other stats a little too.

I find that RDD/WM is of the impractical category, sadly.
Author:  bobofwestoregonusa [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 16:52 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
I didn't say this build was good, only that it has MUSCLES lol
Author:  Commie [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 16:55 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
if you want 50 str no dev crit you're better off going pure rdd and getting more hit points and like 5 ac and breath and immunities and saves and sr in the process. you could also use a 2 hander and only be 2 ac below a strength wm.

also remember rdd gives you int, so you can get by with 12 starting int and get expertise and stuff after your early rdd levels buff your int to 14.
Author:  Maverick00053 [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 17:35 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
10/10. Future build.
Author:  bobofwestoregonusa [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 17:55 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
Maverick00053 wrote:
10/10. Future build.


MAKE AMIA SWOLE AGAIN
Author:  Opustus [ Sat, Feb 18 2017, 20:36 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
PLAY A FUCKING GNOME GENASI FOR +1 AB AND FUCK THAT BLINDFIGHT FUCK
EDIT: Didn't really do the math here, nor can I be arsed to, but might not get the feats for WM in due time.
Author:  Pinkhaml86 [ Wed, Mar 01 2017, 1:29 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
It hurts me that this was considered. And I'm truly scratching my head in confusion.

But I must say Bob. Presentation was 100%.

Don't skip leg day.
Author:  MightNMagic [ Wed, Mar 01 2017, 2:35 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
Kind of boring, although you channel Treantmonk reasonably well.
Author:  Raua [ Wed, Mar 01 2017, 21:55 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
I mean... Uh.. Well..

YOU WON'T GET ME TO ADMIT ANYTHING!!!!!1

Fleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Author:  Blue Moon [ Fri, Mar 03 2017, 17:12 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
If I see one more RDD again I'm gonna vomit in everyone's bags of holding
Author:  Richard_Edmund [ Fri, Mar 03 2017, 17:23 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
Blue Moon wrote:
If I see one more RDD again I'm gonna vomit in everyone's bags of holding

Please don't. I keep all of Elwyn's good clothes in them. :(
Author:  Sig [ Fri, Mar 24 2017, 1:25 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
YEA BROTHER

WAITIN' ON YOUR 50 CON DAMAGE SHIELD 'FITE ME' BUILD
Author:  bobofwestoregonusa [ Fri, Jul 06 2018, 17:47 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: DON'T JUDGE ME WE'VE ALL THOUGHT OF IT
Retrospective: Go 18 RDD/WM 7 instead of 12/13. You get +4 more con and one more bonus feat. 1 ab isn't a huge lost compared to survival. You can also take armor skin as a result.

And you keep.

  • your muscles
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