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Author:  bookofvirtue [ Fri, Mar 03 2017, 23:58 PM ]
Post subject:  Need help with new Rdd build

I need help from a master crafter, i need to transform this build into something viable to lvl with.
Requirements: Need to be human or elf for the good looks of a knight in golden armor.
He will be LG for gold dragon and wield a warhammer and a tower shield. He needs to have devastating critical wich i have no clue on how to pick that feat. I need the help of a pro to actualy make something worthwile. I want to be able to kill epic bosses solo like most powerbuilds do in the end.


Class Race Fighter(10), Red Dragon Disciple(18), Bard(2), Half-Orc

Abilies
STR: 20 (38)
DEX: 10
CON: 14 (20)
WIS: 8
INT: 12 (14)
CHA: 6 (10)

30 Half-Orc: (Darkvision)
F 01: Fighter(1): Weapon Proficiency Exotic, Weapon Focus: Scythe
F 02: Fighter(2): Blind Fight
F 03: Fighter(3): Toughness
F 04: Fighter(4): STR+1, Weapon Specialization: Scythe, (STR=21)
Ba 05: Bard(1): 8 Tumble 8 UMD 8 Lore
RDD 06: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Great Fortitude
RDD 07: Red Dragon Disciple(2): (STR=23)
RDD 08: Red Dragon Disciple(3): STR+1, (STR=24)
RDD 09: Red Dragon Disciple(4): Knockdown, (STR=26)
RDD 10: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
RDD 11: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
RDD 12: Red Dragon Disciple(7): STR+1, Improved Critical: Scythe, (STR=27), (CON=16)
RDD 13: Red Dragon Disciple(8)
RDD 14: Red Dragon Disciple(9): (INT=14)
RDD 15: Red Dragon Disciple(10): Expertise, (STR=29), (CHA=8)
F 16: Fighter(5): STR+1, (STR=30)
F 17: Fighter(6): Disarm
F 18: Fighter(7): Improved Disarm
F 19: Fighter(8): Improved Knockdown
F 20: Fighter(9): STR+1, (STR=31)
RDD 21: Red Dragon Disciple(11): Great Strength I, (STR=32)
RDD 22: Red Dragon Disciple(12): (STR=34)
RDD 23: Red Dragon Disciple(13)
RDD 24: Red Dragon Disciple(14): STR+1, Epic Weapon Focus: Scythe, Epic Prowess, (STR=35)
RDD 25: Red Dragon Disciple(15): (CON=18)
RDD 26: Red Dragon Disciple(16)
F 27: Fighter(10): Great Strength II, Epic Weapon Specialization: Scythe, (STR=36)
Ba 28: Bard(2): STR+1, 30 Tumble 12 UMD, (STR=37)
RDD 29: Red Dragon Disciple(17)
RDD 30: Red Dragon Disciple(18): Great Strength III, Armor Skin, Max discipaline, 28 spellcraft, spend rest of skill points how you want, (STR=38), (CON=20), (CHA=10)

Author:  Maverick00053 [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 0:16 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

Wait to make an RDD Half Orc till after my next RDD patch goes in. Which should hopefully be in a few days, watch announcements.

Also two handers suffer, and non WM two handers suffer even more.

Author:  LunarBloom [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 0:17 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

Maverick00053 wrote:
Wait to make an RDD Half Orc till after my next RDD patch goes in. Which should hopefully be in a few days, watch announcements.

Also two handers suffer, and non WM two handers suffer even more.


RDD Patch? *hypes*

Author:  Commie [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 0:25 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

bookofvirtue wrote:
I need help from a master crafter, i need to transform this build into something viable to lvl with.
Requirements: Need to be human or elf for the good looks of a knight in golden armor.
He will be LG for gold dragon and wield a warhammer and a tower shield. He needs to have devastating critical wich i have no clue on how to pick that feat. I need the help of a pro to actualy make something worthwile. I want to be able to kill epic bosses solo like most powerbuilds do in the end.


Class Race Fighter(10), Red Dragon Disciple(18), Bard(2), Human

Abilies
STR: 18
DEX: 10
CON: 14
WIS: 8
INT: 12
CHA: 6

30 Half-Orc: (Darkvision)
F 01: Fighter(1): Weapon Proficiency Exotic, Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword
F 02: Fighter(2): Blind Fight
F 03: Fighter(3): Toughness
F 04: Fighter(4): STR+1, Weapon Specialization: Bastard Sword, (STR=21)
Ba 05: Bard(1): 8 Tumble 8 UMD 8 Lore
RDD 06: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Power Attack
RDD 07: Red Dragon Disciple(2): (STR=23)
RDD 08: Red Dragon Disciple(3): STR+1, (STR=24)
RDD 09: Red Dragon Disciple(4): Knockdown, (STR=26)
RDD 10: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
RDD 11: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
RDD 12: Red Dragon Disciple(7): STR+1, Improved Critical: Bastard Sword, (STR=27), (CON=16)
RDD 13: Red Dragon Disciple(8)
RDD 14: Red Dragon Disciple(9): (INT=14)
RDD 15: Red Dragon Disciple(10): Expertise, (STR=29), (CHA=8)
F 16: Fighter(5): STR+1, (STR=30)
F 17: Fighter(6): Cleave
F 18: Fighter(7): Great Cleave
F 19: Fighter(8): Improved Knockdown
F 20: Fighter(9): STR+1, (STR=31)
RDD 21: Red Dragon Disciple(11): Great Strength I, (STR=32)
RDD 22: Red Dragon Disciple(12): (STR=34)
RDD 23: Red Dragon Disciple(13)
RDD 24: Red Dragon Disciple(14): STR+1, Epic Weapon Focus: Scythe, Epic Prowess, (STR=35)
RDD 25: Red Dragon Disciple(15): (CON=18)
RDD 26: Red Dragon Disciple(16)
F 27: Fighter(10): Overwhelming Crit Bastard Sword, Epic Weapon Specialization: Bastard Sword, (STR=36)
Ba 28: Bard(2): STR+1, 30 Tumble 12 UMD, (STR=37)
RDD 29: Red Dragon Disciple(17)
RDD 30: Red Dragon Disciple(18): Dev Crit Bastard Sword, Armor Skin, Max discipline, 28 spellcraft, spend rest of skill points how you want


should do it.

Author:  bookofvirtue [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 1:44 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

Should make 2handers monkey grip suffer, normal 2h doesn't do that good already and if they get pulled down even more....

Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 4:59 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

Why do you talk about being a human or elf with a warhammer and tower shield and then make a half orc with scythe build?

Author:  Gremin [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 6:06 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

Maverick00053 wrote:
Wait to make an RDD Half Orc till after my next RDD patch goes in. Which should hopefully be in a few days, watch announcements.

Also two handers suffer, and non WM two handers suffer even more.


Uhh, so what happens to those who have already gone that route?

Author:  bookofvirtue [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 16:19 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

I did not make this build, I want to it be modified by someone competent to make it viable within the parameters i gave. This is the build Commie gave me and i never even touched it. It just doesnt fit what i need but its a squeleton that can be used.

Author:  Commie [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 16:20 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

bookofvirtue wrote:
I did not make this build, I want to it be modified by someone competent to make it viable within the parameters i gave. This is the build Commie gave me and i never even touched it. It just doesnt fit what i need but its a squeleton that can be used.


uh scroll up

viewtopic.php?p=1430653#p1430653

just take warhammer not bastard sword and great fort instead of exotic weap prof

edit; i left 'epic weapon focus scythe' in there just take it for a warhammer instead.

Author:  Commie [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 16:26 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

Class Race Fighter(10), Red Dragon Disciple(18), Bard(2), Human

Abilies
STR: 18
DEX: 10
CON: 14
WIS: 8
INT: 12
CHA: 6

30 Human:
F 01: Fighter(1): Weapon Proficiency Exotic OR Luck of Heroes OR Great Fort (pick 2), Weapon Focus: X
F 02: Fighter(2): Blind Fight
F 03: Fighter(3): Toughness
F 04: Fighter(4): STR+1, Weapon Specialization: X,
Ba 05: Bard(1): 8 Tumble 8 UMD 8 Lore
RDD 06: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Power Attack
RDD 07: Red Dragon Disciple(2):
RDD 08: Red Dragon Disciple(3): STR+1,
RDD 09: Red Dragon Disciple(4): Knockdown,
RDD 10: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
RDD 11: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
RDD 12: Red Dragon Disciple(7): STR+1, Improved Critical: X,
RDD 13: Red Dragon Disciple(8)
RDD 14: Red Dragon Disciple(9):
RDD 15: Red Dragon Disciple(10): Expertise, RDD int bump to 14 can now take int 13 requiring feats
F 16: Fighter(5): STR+1,
F 17: Fighter(6): Cleave
F 18: Fighter(7): Great Cleave
F 19: Fighter(8): Improved Knockdown
F 20: Fighter(9): STR+1,
RDD 21: Red Dragon Disciple(11): Great Strength I,
RDD 22: Red Dragon Disciple(12):
RDD 23: Red Dragon Disciple(13)
RDD 24: Red Dragon Disciple(14): STR+1, Epic Weapon Focus: X, Epic Prowess,
RDD 25: Red Dragon Disciple(15):
RDD 26: Red Dragon Disciple(16)
F 27: Fighter(10): Overwhelming Crit X, Epic Weapon Specialization: X,
Ba 28: Bard(2): STR+1, 30 Tumble 12 UMD,
RDD 29: Red Dragon Disciple(17)
RDD 30: Red Dragon Disciple(18): Dev Crit X, Armor Skin, Max discipline, 28 spellcraft, spend rest of skill points how you want

Author:  bookofvirtue [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 16:33 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

Human cant go to 6 cha

Can this build be done with wood elf with dev crit too?

Author:  Commie [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 16:35 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

so go 8 cha it doesn't change anything

Author:  Commie [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 16:38 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

Class Race Fighter(10), Red Dragon Disciple(18), Bard(2), Human

Abilies STR: 18 (34)
DEX: 10
CON: 14 (20)
WIS: 8
INT: 14 (16)
CHA: 8 (12)

30 Human: (Quick to Master)
F 01: Fighter(1): Luck of Heroes, Great Fortitude, Weapon Focus: Warhammer
F 02: Fighter(2): Blind Fight
F 03: Fighter(3): Toughness
F 04: Fighter(4): STR+1, Weapon Specialization: Warhammer, (STR=19)
Ba 05: Bard(1) 8 Tumble 8 UMD 8 Lore
RDD 06: Red Dragon Disciple(1): Power Attack
RDD 07: Red Dragon Disciple(2): (STR=21)
RDD 08: Red Dragon Disciple(3): STR+1, (STR=22)
RDD 09: Red Dragon Disciple(4): Cleave, (STR=24)
RDD 10: Red Dragon Disciple(5)
RDD 11: Red Dragon Disciple(6)
RDD 12: Red Dragon Disciple(7): STR+1, Improved Critical: Warhammer, (STR=25), (CON=16)
RDD 13: Red Dragon Disciple(8)
RDD 14: Red Dragon Disciple(9): (INT=16)
RDD 15: Red Dragon Disciple(10): Expertise, {Darkvision}, (STR=27), (CHA=10)
F 16: Fighter(5): STR+1, (STR=28)
F 17: Fighter(6): Great Cleave
F 18: Fighter(7): Knockdown
F 19: Fighter(8): Improved Knockdown
F 20: Fighter(9): STR+1, (STR=29)
RDD 21: Red Dragon Disciple(11): Great Strength I, (STR=30)
RDD 22: Red Dragon Disciple(12): (STR=32)
RDD 23: Red Dragon Disciple(13)
RDD 24: Red Dragon Disciple(14): STR+1, Epic Weapon Focus: Warhammer, Epic Prowess, (STR=33)
RDD 25: Red Dragon Disciple(15): (CON=18)
RDD 26: Red Dragon Disciple(16)
F 27: Fighter(10): Overwhelming Critical: Warhammer, Epic Weapon Specialization: Warhammer
Ba 28: Bard(2): STR+1, (STR=34) 30 Tumble 12 UMD
RDD 29: Red Dragon Disciple(17)
RDD 30: Red Dragon Disciple(18): Devastating Critical: Warhammer, Armor Skin, (CON=20), (CHA=12) Max discipline, 28 spellcraft, spend rest of skill points how you want

Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 21:53 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

I'd change Expertise for Strong Soul and use the free feat for Lighting Reflexes (or anything else you'd want), or hell, Improved Power Attack for when you're stupid buffed and just plowing through PvE, but I also really don't like expertise and don't think going to 65 AC vs 60 does a whole lot for you. Considering if it's PvP, opponents are just going to click their own expertise anyways, effectively raising your AC.

Your mileage may vary. That's my Hot Take (tm).

ed: idk why i think there's a free feat there. ignore me, but that's still my expertise advice.

Author:  bookofvirtue [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 22:02 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

How about changing knockdown and imp knockdown for disarm and imp disarm?

Author:  Commie [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 22:14 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

I wouldn't unless you're using a two hander.

Author:  Gribbo [ Sat, Mar 04 2017, 22:28 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with new Rdd build

TormakSaber wrote:
I'd change Expertise for Strong Soul and use the free feat for Lighting Reflexes (or anything else you'd want), or hell, Improved Power Attack for when you're stupid buffed and just plowing through PvE, but I also really don't like expertise and don't think going to 65 AC vs 60 does a whole lot for you. Considering if it's PvP, opponents are just going to click their own expertise anyways, effectively raising your AC.

Your mileage may vary. That's my Hot Take (tm).

ed: idk why i think there's a free feat there. ignore me, but that's still my expertise advice.



I think rdds get enough ac to put them at the point where expertise doesn't offer nearly as much as it does to other str builds with lower ac.

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