Falling Spider
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Posted: Thu, Oct 12 2017, 7:25 AM |
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Joined: 29 Mar 2009
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I see mentions here and there mentioning saveless spells. Beyond igms, what are those? I can't seem to remember any others.
_________________ Gahnn Bluetusk Aleksandr Vespermouth II "Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie."
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Mrlala
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Posted: Thu, Oct 12 2017, 8:16 AM |
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Joined: 22 May 2009
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Ray of frost! Magic missile! So many good ones to choose from.
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lilmarcat
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Posted: Thu, Oct 12 2017, 9:33 AM |
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Joined: 27 Dec 2013
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Flesh vs Stone has unsaveable STR and CON debuff Acid Arrow is unsaveable as is the improved Shadow version Searing lights damage is unsaveable Greases movement penalty is unsaveable All damage shield spells are technically unsaveable Negative energy bursts STR reduction is unsaveable Harm/Heal has no save Icestorm has no save Greater Ruin and hellball have no save or spell resistance
Probably still missed a few
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Tarnus
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Posted: Thu, Oct 12 2017, 9:36 AM |
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Joined: 28 Aug 2015
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Not quite correct, Harm and heal have saves on Amia.
_________________ Playing as: Aleana Xiloscient: Wherever the winds take her. Jealesyl Truesong: A voice in the dark DM Prometheus: Bringing you fire
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lilmarcat
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Posted: Thu, Oct 12 2017, 9:38 AM |
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Joined: 27 Dec 2013
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Bigbys interposing hand is another good one at least
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thunderbrush
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Posted: Thu, Oct 12 2017, 14:46 PM |
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Joined: 12 Nov 2015 Location: The belly of the beast
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Empowered earthquakes, while not saveless are nice, and they bypass spell mantles.
_________________ Jace Fenneril: Cleric of Sharess.
Michael Harcourte: Painter, Scribe.
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robbi320
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Posted: Thu, Oct 12 2017, 15:16 PM |
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Joined: 04 Jan 2015
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I think quite a few spells have gotten saveless addons with the new-ish chages.
Vampirc touch also is technically saveless. I even once though about making a gimpy PM/Wiz (mabe even sorc) around that, because you just need to hit a touch attack, which are easy to hit, and it's nice healing and damage, both in one, and if you're hard to hit... well. It seems fun for 1v1 PvP, not much use apart frokm that, lol. But like filled up with empowered's, Maximised, and normal, you could prolly get quite a few casts of it. Still gimpy though, lol.
But yeah, I think the added bonuses from the changes, like all the fire combos are saveless as well. Don't deal too much damage, but techincally saveless.
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