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So apparently, A is going to reset in 17 hours, if the IG 'next reset' message is to be believed.

What?

Found an ancient stone-tablet in the DM commands which granted the ability to manipulate the reset timer. Thats what happened.

Silly Terra, messing with our heads.

Not sure if this was just me or if anyone else experienced the same, but leading up to the server reset on A just now, I didn't get any of the "incoming reset in X minutes" messages, nor the "server is resetting, you're about to be booted" message, or whatever it says. I just timed out when the server reset.

Same here, and repeated crashed after that.

Same, several times in a row now. Repeated crashings.

Gonna do some maintenance in 15 mins. Will take about 30 mins and I'll reboot the whole server. Often helps to solve bouts of weird crashing.

That was me being a nasty person.

Uhh... B appears to have a password on it?

Hmm, perhaps it's been haked...

B Still password protected with only 3 people on the server? (1 pc, 2 dms) :/

There is testing going on B.

A feels really unstable right now, been timed out a couple times and been unable to connect to it at all other times. :s

dayfer wrote:

A feels really unstable right now, been timed out a couple times and been unable to connect to it at all other times. :s

Yep, been disconnecting every 10 minutes. Several of my friends are having the same issue. :/

A seems to be really laggy tonight

A is still realy laggy :/

It was mentioned to me over Skype that both A and B have been terribly laggy the past few days. I've only really played a short while the past two nights, and I really noticed last night was terrible. I was in a spawn, and would lag for 15 seconds after every attack and after every kill. Took me almost three minutes to kill a single spawn of trogs.

I'll leave this here..

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

It seems that the server is down for the majority.

And not only server, by the looks of it.

Yeah I was told the forums are down too for them.

Edit: The crash seems to be regional. All the people from my country can hop onto the forum.

Servers fall down go boom. They still show online on the forum but are not accessible in-game. Still show's me on Bmia.

Anatida wrote:

Servers fall down go boom. They still show online on the forum but are not accessible in-game. Still show's me on Bmia.

Same here. Website is accessible, can ping successfully. Server's are showing as up and populated, but they're ghosts!! AAAA!! I SEE DEAD PEOPLE!!

I fixed it.

Mahtan Tasadur wrote:

I fixed it.

You 'da man!

What's the increase in lag on B of the late, causing me to disconnect repeatedly, and there's only 4 people on the server? I mean, 9/10 times I die over there now, it's cause it lags, jumps me back to the mob, and hips doesn't activate. It's starting to get a bit annoying?

Night Mother wrote:

What's the increase in lag on B of the late, causing me to disconnect repeatedly, and there's only 4 people on the server? I mean, 9/10 times I die over there now, it's cause it lags, jumps me back to the mob, and hips doesn't activate. It's starting to get a bit annoying?

happens to me too! right after it happened last night i checked, it had restarted BEFORE i got on there.

I've noticed this too. It's not connected to any particular time of day, or number of people on. Tool tip lag. Inventory page lag. Action execution lag. It's quite noticeable. And, at times, makes things unplayable. It's been happening for about two weeks, maybe a bit longer.

And this is just Amia B? Is it all the time or just in spikes? Is it lagging now? I've been looking at the server and between the two Amia B is using the least amount of resources and has the lower ping out of the two.

Edit: DM guy who sees this, split from Night Mothers post.

Can verify that Bmia had a weirdly high amount of lag compared to A. Had to switch servers the other night because simple conversation was impossible, but it was fine on A.

I have been experiencing the same lag over the last couple of days (at least), on B only.

Just checked this morning and I concur, all is fine on B-Mia now.

It's not all the time. I was on a few hours ago, it and was almost completely normal. But, it quite often lately.

A seems to be lagging a lot. Last night wasn't too bad (I think it crashed once though), but today it's crashed twice. Once a couple hours ago and then just now.

Two times in a row with 5 min in between the server reseted

Bleh. A is flicking on and off for some reason. On for a bit, then crash. Site shows people on, but no one can log in. It comes back up and is up for a random amount of time....last time was 45 mins or so, then crash again.

Gonna do some backups and maintenance in a few hours. Will take about 30 mins and both forums and game will be down. Now you know why!

Both servers randomly crashed 5 minutes ago from this post, no lag just kicked us out.

A keeps hiccuping with some really intense lag, spikes where you just stand there for 5-15 seconds. Been doing it the past few hours. I also saw a mass boot a couple hours ago, though I wasn't booted.

Aannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd it just crashed. Hard.

B is down....for a few mins now. A is working though

Naivatkal wrote:

A keeps hiccuping with some really intense lag, spikes where you just stand there for 5-15 seconds. Been doing it the past few hours. I also saw a mass boot a couple hours ago, though I wasn't booted.

Aannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd it just crashed. Hard.

This is happening again.

Sorry guys - my sword was too powerful for the server. Mana tried to create it, but the energy required absorbed all of Amia for a little while.

Once again A lagged out and crashed. B is fine. Apparently this has happened multiple times today.

A is still not up, been several minutes.

It's back, but something has been funky with A for a week now.

A crashed again -_-

Just on a hunch, it seems like either some sort of memory leak or a broken script that eventually kills the module. The crash intervals seems pretty consistent.

Well, I know the Undercroft in Tarkuul is bugged and crashes people upon entry (and doesn't let them leave until reset). Maybe, and this is a big maybe since I don't know how NwN is structured, it's related to the server having issues?

NinjaClarinet wrote:

Just on a hunch, it seems like either some sort of memory leak or a broken script that eventually kills the module. The crash intervals seems pretty consistent.

nwserver always leaks because it never removes info about players, when a player leaves the game they leave behind an object called a CNWSPlayerTURD, these objects hold the location, effects, local-data, names, reputation, minimaps and everything that is required to be saved. When a PC logs back in the turd data is copied back to the player object and you endup in the same state you where when you left. This is why the server has to reset to begin with. So technically a PC never actually leaves.

Have a screenshot of the symbolics:

I've been meaning to write a garbage collector for the TURD list but I haven't backwards engineered it enough for it yet. I'll see if I can dig around in it and see if that lightens the lag and or crashes.

Another lag and then crash just now. About 5 hours into reset.

Terra_777 wrote:

NinjaClarinet wrote:

Just on a hunch, it seems like either some sort of memory leak or a broken script that eventually kills the module. The crash intervals seems pretty consistent.

nwserver always leaks because it never removes info about players, when a player leaves the game they leave behind an object called a CNWSPlayerTURD, these objects hold the location, effects, local-data, names, reputation, minimaps and everything that is required to be saved. When a PC logs back in the turd data is copied back to the player object and you endup in the same state you where when you left. This is why the server has to reset to begin with. So technically a PC never actually leaves.

Have a screenshot of the symbolics:

I've been meaning to write a garbage collector for the TURD list but I haven't backwards engineered it enough for it yet. I'll see if I can dig around in it and see if that lightens the lag and or crashes.

One possible solution is to create a local database (I always advocate MySQL out of habit), and have a script that can detect when a player leaves and enters. When a player leaves, it creates an entry in the database table marking all the data about the user that the CNWSPlayerTURD object holds, and then deletes it from the server; then when a player enters, it copies the data over and into the player object.

Its not that easy. Database usage should also be kept at a minimum since nwserver is singlethreaded its not possible to make asynchronous database queries. In comparison to reading ram or files the transaction from a database is the slower out of the three.

I got better plans though, can just keep a timestamp table in luascript or make a nwnx plugin to deal with it and simply collect all the "TURDs" that haven't been used in X amount of time.

MAYDAY! The server crashed!

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