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Author:  Falling Spider [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 7:25 AM ]
Post subject:  Spells
I see mentions here and there mentioning saveless spells. Beyond igms, what are those? I can't seem to remember any others.
Author:  Mrlala [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 8:16 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Spells
Ray of frost! Magic missile! So many good ones to choose from.
Author:  lilmarcat [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 9:33 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Spells
Flesh vs Stone has unsaveable STR and CON debuff
Acid Arrow is unsaveable as is the improved Shadow version
Searing lights damage is unsaveable
Greases movement penalty is unsaveable
All damage shield spells are technically unsaveable
Negative energy bursts STR reduction is unsaveable
Harm/Heal has no save
Icestorm has no save
Greater Ruin and hellball have no save or spell resistance

Probably still missed a few
Author:  Tarnus [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 9:36 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Spells
Not quite correct, Harm and heal have saves on Amia.
Author:  lilmarcat [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 9:38 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Spells
Bigbys interposing hand is another good one at least :D
Author:  thunderbrush [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 14:46 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Spells
Empowered earthquakes, while not saveless are nice, and they bypass spell mantles.
Author:  robbi320 [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 15:16 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Spells
I think quite a few spells have gotten saveless addons with the new-ish chages.

Vampirc touch also is technically saveless. I even once though about making a gimpy PM/Wiz (mabe even sorc) around that, because you just need to hit a touch attack, which are easy to hit, and it's nice healing and damage, both in one, and if you're hard to hit... well. It seems fun for 1v1 PvP, not much use apart frokm that, lol. But like filled up with empowered's, Maximised, and normal, you could prolly get quite a few casts of it. Still gimpy though, lol.

But yeah, I think the added bonuses from the changes, like all the fire combos are saveless as well. Don't deal too much damage, but techincally saveless.
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