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TeroSNS
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 Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 16:21 PM |
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Joined: 26 Jan 2009
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How does the extra hp work of palemaster? (pre-epic ones)
Is dragon knight worth anything? Has dragon knights requirements been changed? (most notably that ride feat and 1 skill rank)
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-Cloak-and-Dagger-
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 16:26 PM |
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Joined: 09 Feb 2009
Location: England
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Pale Master:
Levels 1-4,11-14,16-19 - 6+CON Modifier HP per level
Levels 5-10 - 9+CON Modifier HP per level
Levels 15&20 - 11+CON Modifier HP per Level
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Glyph
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 16:39 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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I assume you mean EDK, Quote: Dragon Knight [Duration: 1 Round / CL]
This spell summons a powerful dragon to your side based on your alignment as follows:
• Good: Silver Dragon
• Neutral: Prismatic Dragon
• Evil: Red Dragon
The Epic Spell Focus: Conjuration feat summons the dragon for 1 Turn / CL. also: Prerequisite: 21st level, the ability to cast 9th level spells, spellcraft 22 ^-- from nwn wiki -not- amia specific but I have to assume its the same else it would be impossible to build toward certain feats. as I found out the hard way you need 21 CASTER levels not total levels. ie 21 wizard 9 something else. I don't know if palemaster stacks with other mage classes. ed: you need epic spell focus conjuration aswell here on amia for this one guys? i'm half debating making a necro at some point =)
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jimbono1
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 17:14 PM |
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007
Location: England
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Think he means Purple Dragon Knights, due to 1. Topic about Prestige Classes and 2. He said something about Riding skills!
Other then that, i have no idea and have nothing futher to add D:
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Glyph
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 17:15 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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I thought that until I read dragon -knight- rather than -colour- dragon disciple. more to add if you do mean EDK. Quote: The actual prerequisite is not the ability to cast level 9 spells, but being an epic cleric, druid, sorcerer, or wizard, or having at least 15 pale master levels. Furthermore, this feat can only be chosen when gaining a level in the qualifying class. again non amia specific. if you mean dragon disciple please say you mean dragon disciple. ed: ok now i'm just confused, yea ride skills...meh you asked about pale masters, this could be useful anyway.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 17:30 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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He means the prestige class called Purple Dragon Knight.
As the class is now, it swings like a bedridden grandparent. Level 1 is useful for the forever spammable Heroic Shield. Otherwise the thingies are only good for PvBoss and PvP and still there would be better classes if you were to make a build only for those needs.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 17:30 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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PDK has of yet not been altered on Amia.
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Gers
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 17:37 PM |
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Location: Kentucky, USA
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It seriously needs to be, though >> It's like the original harper scout was, but with a bit better AB progression.
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The Peacock
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 17:53 PM |
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Joined: 17 Feb 2007
Location: Patrollink ze borderz! Wo ist das Hahn!?
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PDK... Urgh... I tried to make a Paladin/PDK once for Amia. Without the stinkin' horse he's like a fly with no wings.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 17:56 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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IF you made a bad Paladin/anything, you did it wrong...
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jimbono1
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 18:02 PM |
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007
Location: England
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Paladin/Palemaster/Blackguard?
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Gravemaskin
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 18:02 PM |
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Joined: 29 Jul 2007
Location: Norway: Home of the Trolls
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I made a decent pal/PDK build for Amia, and I just winged it. I'm pretty sure if someone took more than 10-12 mins to make a build with 5 PDK levels, you could do it pretty damn decently.
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The Peacock
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 18:03 PM |
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Joined: 17 Feb 2007
Location: Patrollink ze borderz! Wo ist das Hahn!?
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Nevertheless, as it stands, PDK is useless.
EDIT: OOOOOH! WELL JUST RUB IT IN GRAVE! JEEZ!
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Kraniumbrud
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 18:16 PM |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2008
Location: Denmark
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Gravemaskin wrote: I made a decent pal/PDK build for Amia, and I just winged it. I'm pretty sure if someone took more than 10-12 mins to make a build with 5 PDK levels, you could do it pretty damn decently. after having been instructed in how to use PDK i will say this, it ROCKS at pre epic..just as long as they five levels are taken before level 20, its a very good pre epic class.some of the abilities could have a longer duration but thats about my only complaints.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 18:39 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Kraniumbrud wrote: Gravemaskin wrote: I made a decent pal/PDK build for Amia, and I just winged it. I'm pretty sure if someone took more than 10-12 mins to make a build with 5 PDK levels, you could do it pretty damn decently. after having been instructed in how to use PDK i will say this, it ROCKS at pre epic..just as long as they five levels are taken before level 20, its a very good pre epic class.some of the abilities could have a longer duration but thats about my only complaints. Naaaaaa.... Worthless class
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 18:40 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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No, Svensk, it isn't. It can be used to great effect. Anyways, that's a discussion for the build topic.
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corypx
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 19:36 PM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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when I was reading Purple Dragon Knight, I was thinking that sounded awsome a commander who would have group buffs...ect but then noticed 5 level max, and skills were kind of junk.
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Kraniumbrud
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 20:16 PM |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2008
Location: Denmark
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some of the buffs are abit meh because of short duration, but its not something that really bugs me
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corypx
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 21:13 PM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Kraniumbrud wrote: some of the buffs are abit meh because of short duration, but its not something that really bugs me the idea of the Purple Dragon Knight class being a leader boosting the moral of the troop in forms of buffs are basicly trumped by a druid who casts Aura of vitality(in terms of whats better) _________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE)
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sun, Aug 01 2010, 22:27 PM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Increase the abilities a bit, then it will be fine, or remove the cap on levels for it.
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Kraniumbrud
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Posted: Mon, Aug 02 2010, 1:01 AM |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2008
Location: Denmark
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corypx wrote: Kraniumbrud wrote: some of the buffs are abit meh because of short duration, but its not something that really bugs me the idea of the Purple Dragon Knight class being a leader boosting the moral of the troop in forms of buffs are basicly trumped by a druid who casts Aura of vitality(in terms of whats better) that might be...but you need a pdk to do a maximised AC...and a purple dragon knight can give a -INSTANT- speed bost when you need it, it can raise you ab against a single foe ina duel -instantly- improving you saves against that foe too...pdk is sooo much fun to play, it has great ab..i would say its perfect pre epic class...
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DerkDerkistan
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Posted: Mon, Aug 02 2010, 4:23 AM |
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Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Location: Earth
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Does it require a lot of micromanaging, though?
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Mon, Aug 02 2010, 8:43 AM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: London, UK
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No.... not enough crap to use it on to micromange... All its abilities are to sort term, and not enough to make it a viable class for anything other then pvp or pvboss.
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Dramatic_Prince
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Posted: Mon, Aug 02 2010, 16:13 PM |
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Joined: 11 Sep 2008
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The requirements for PDK should be altered into something like any non-evil and non-chaotic L21 and above Fighter.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Aug 02 2010, 20:05 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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That's ridiculous.
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Kudark
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Posted: Mon, Aug 02 2010, 22:28 PM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2009
Location: The Dark Side of the Moon
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Would there be many Cormyran officers and elite warriors on the islands?
Is there an Embassy?
I thought about rolling up a PDK, but couldn't find a RP connection to Amia.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Aug 02 2010, 22:39 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
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Because there really is none. PDK is simila to Champion of Torm: It simply representsa charismatic "General" or "Knight" like character.
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brooksthegreat
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Posted: Mon, Aug 02 2010, 23:18 PM |
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Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Location: Eastern US
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TormakSaber wrote: Because there really is none. PDK is simila to Champion of Torm: It simply representsa charismatic "General" or "Knight" like character. There was a post at one point about removing alignment restrictions that got locked over an argument about lawful bards - is there any chance that CoT will ever have its alignment restriction unlocked, as it really does make no sense.
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Kraniumbrud
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 0:08 AM |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2008
Location: Denmark
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im a dm approved purple dragon knight, sent by cormyr
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Dramatic_Prince
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 9:38 AM |
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Joined: 11 Sep 2008
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TormakSaber wrote: That's ridiculous. Only so to justify the feats getting a mod so that it cannot be used to powerclass CHA built pally/sorcs/bards. To be used only for elite fighters. _________________
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Lutra
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 12:56 PM |
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Joined: 12 Feb 2008
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Kudark wrote: Would there be many Cormyran officers and elite warriors on the islands?
Is there an Embassy?
I thought about rolling up a PDK, but couldn't find a RP connection to Amia. There is one DM approved (knighted by a high ranking PDK NPC) PDK on Amia, she lives in Kohlingen. Also there is one PDK NPC who appears in Kohlingen frequently to look after the Cormyrian folks, but you can also ask my character ig, or the character of Kraniumbrud who is the mentioned DM approved PDK. If you are looking for a DM to help, then speak with Bobo.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 13:22 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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Does actually being a PDK always require DM approval?
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Kraniumbrud
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 16:21 PM |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2008
Location: Denmark
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being a ic PDK, yes since its nobility, taking the class no
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Lutra
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 17:10 PM |
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Joined: 12 Feb 2008
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It's like taking the Harper Scout class. It won't make you a Harper. You must find the society ig or you must be found by them to become one.
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Glyph
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 17:50 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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i've yet to see -any- harper scouts on amia. also since when was PDK nobility?
unless of course the bards are just not mentioning they are harpers because ICly they arn't part of the secret society.
ed: I don't know if =/= means =! (not equal too) but knights arn't nobility they are the staff.
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Dramatic_Prince
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 18:15 PM |
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Glyph wrote: since when was PDK nobility? Knighthood =/= nobility _________________
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Kraniumbrud
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 18:51 PM |
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Joined: 08 Dec 2008
Location: Denmark
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Glyph wrote: ed: I don't know if =/= means =! (not equal too) but knights arn't nobility they are the staff. i dissagrea, calling them staff is a gross simplification
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Glyph
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Posted: Tue, Aug 03 2010, 20:19 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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you may disagree but the king said go kill orcs you go kill orcs. staff.
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Dramatic_Prince
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Posted: Wed, Aug 04 2010, 3:29 AM |
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Joined: 11 Sep 2008
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Perhaps some of the higher ranking knights may hold land and title, otherwise the average knight is just part of a elite troop.
Does your knight have land and title?
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Zinovy
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Posted: Wed, Aug 04 2010, 3:52 AM |
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Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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CoT is a champion named by their god, PDK is a champion named by their ruler. It's like being an officer instead of a soldier; they still answer to someone as part of an organized army, but they have a high status in it and probably underlings.
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