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alamut
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 3:51 AM |
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Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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As the tittle of the thread says, is that possible ? I mean, of course I would have to ask for player's permission on that, but that kind of spell would be possible for Blackguards as it is to paladins ?
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 4:03 AM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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762
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 4:11 AM |
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Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Location: Florida
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Detect Good as a spell like ability, at BG1.
As for how that works on Amia, you need OOC permission just like Detect Evil.
_________________ Araxus Balmor Gurth Balmor (retired)
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HellScourge
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 6:52 AM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Location: GMT+1
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Or just smack them with smite good to see if it triggers.
_________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...] 
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hendrack
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 7:07 AM |
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Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Vienna
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You should have researched and asked that before your foggy DC request.
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Wolfking6116
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 8:11 AM |
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Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Location: -5 GMT
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Was that comment really needed? Really?
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 8:40 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Grgrmlb... Hendrack, That was out of line.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 9:02 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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It was in line and entirely correct. He should have researched it first.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 9:08 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Some of us don't know the entire spell repertoire, By hand, nor the limits of PnP Magic. Tacking down upon them, In a negative way, Doesn't promote new efforts from the player.
It condescending.
On Topic Hellscourge pretty much nailed it. You're an evil sod, Test your metal against the foe and see if it hurts.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 9:11 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Ah, but when you make a DC request, you should look into these things.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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hendrack
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 9:26 AM |
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Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Vienna
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HellScourge wrote: Or just smack them with smite good to see if it triggers. Paladins get a Fall for that, and BGs can use this as freebie? *muttergrumble*
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 9:28 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Perks of being evil. Bane probably doesn't care of you smite some dolt and he ends up being non good, but Torm sure does if they're not evil.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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hendrack
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 9:34 AM |
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Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Vienna
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In 2 years I'll make a BG of Set then.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 19:31 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Sebek! Croco-stylin'!
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Sun, Oct 10 2010, 19:59 PM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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Wolfking6116 wrote: Was that comment really needed? Really? Yes and it could also use its own thread, because, out of interest I keep track of the requests forum and player laxity is one of the things that slows the request process up exponentially.
_________________ I play: Gage le Gris Socially and recently politically Inept Knight of Xymor
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HellScourge
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 13:49 PM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Location: GMT+1
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hendrack wrote: HellScourge wrote: Or just smack them with smite good to see if it triggers. Paladins get a Fall for that, and BGs can use this as freebie? *muttergrumble* Well, unlike certain 'Stick in the bum and doing all good things' chums are Blackguards evil and can get away by randomly smacking people In fact I am quite certain some Gods/Devils/Demons would happily approve of that! Especially when its a Paladin you smack. *SMACK* Paladin: OUCH! Blackguard: Alright, he is a good guy. He can come with us. Paladin: That was uncalled for! BG: Cry me a river Choir Boy. Now lets go and slay creatures. Paladin: Grumble.
_________________ "Most assume that all the followers of Lathander are great morning people. They're very wrong." "I think we are the only group where AD&D stands for Attention Deficit Disorder." TeroSNS wrote: Hello Everyone [...] I like tentacles [...] 
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Goblin
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 14:33 PM |
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Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Location: Scotland
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NPCs can detect alignment without my consent.
_________________ "O God of Earth and Altar, Bow down and hear our cry, Our earthly rulers falter, Our people drift and die, The walls of gold entomb us, The swords of scorn divide, Take not thy thunder from us, But take away our pride."
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 15:05 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Goblin wrote: NPCs can detect alignment without my consent. We're speaking of PC blackguards.
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Goblin
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 15:24 PM |
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Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Location: Scotland
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As they say, whats good for the goose...
If an NPC can do it then why can't a PC with the 'training' to back it up? Paladins, Blackguards?
_________________ "O God of Earth and Altar, Bow down and hear our cry, Our earthly rulers falter, Our people drift and die, The walls of gold entomb us, The swords of scorn divide, Take not thy thunder from us, But take away our pride."
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DustSpray101
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 15:45 PM |
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Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Location: Night Vale
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A wizard did it. That is the commonly accepted reason for why two people trained the same way don't have the exact same abilities as the other.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 16:17 PM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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HellScourge wrote: Especially when its a Paladin you smack.
*SMACK* Paladin: OUCH! Blackguard: Alright, he is a good guy. He can come with us. Paladin: That was uncalled for! BG: Cry me a river Choir Boy. Now lets go and slay creatures. Paladin: Grumble. 1. Why would a BG say a paladin can come with him? What, if he was evil, you would turn him away? >_> 2. What the hell type of pussy paladin gets Smite Good'ed and then just grumbles about it? [removed] monsters, I'm about to have a BG shish kabob roasted over holy fire.
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DustSpray101
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 16:24 PM |
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Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Location: Night Vale
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BGs are known to try to fell paladins. Likewise, paladins are know to attempt to save BGs. What reason is there for them to fight eachother with swords all the time when they can use their ungodly charisma to try to win another person over?
_________________ Eli Hodgewall <{/,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~X Sven <=={o===========> Qeelak \ | / ,
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alamut
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 18:42 PM |
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Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 18:45 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Goblin wrote: NPCs can detect alignment without my consent. We're the DM. We're allowed to do that.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 20:49 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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During plots, a player could typically say "Detect Evil" on any player, and ask the DM if he could do it, and depending on the DM and situation - the DM may give an answer. DMs / Plots overrule the 'PnP Permission' rule. Must be DMside, of course.
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corypx
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 21:13 PM |
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Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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TormakSaber wrote: Goblin wrote: NPCs can detect alignment without my consent. We're the DM. We're allowed to do that. damn Horus-Re giving me dirty looks....
_________________ ================-<Cory ShadowFlame>-================ Risenlord-Shifter(OMG a Non-Dragon Shifter that can hold his own in PvE) 
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2010, 23:58 PM |
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Joined: 26 May 2010
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TormakSaber wrote: Goblin wrote: NPCs can detect alignment without my consent. We're the DM. We're allowed to do that. This. Win. Hand of G.O.D. (Game Operational Director) at it's finest =D
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 0:13 AM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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DustSpray101 wrote: BGs are known to try to fell paladins. Likewise, paladins are know to attempt to save BGs. What reason is there for them to fight eachother with swords all the time when they can use their ungodly charisma to try to win another person over? Touche. I still say though, since Smite Good still requires a full-force physical attack, and the paladin would certainly feel he's been slammed by evil power, that there is precious little room for words after that instance. And the words said then are likely "REPENT OR PERISH!".
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Lesquille
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 2:29 AM |
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Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne
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DustSpray101 wrote: BGs are known to try to fell paladins. Likewise, paladins are know to attempt to save BGs. What reason is there for them to fight eachother with swords all the time when they can use their ungodly charisma to try to win another person over? A couple of players need to make a paladin and blackguard who are always trying to turn the other towards good/evil. And play this whenever they're on.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 3:19 AM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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Is this before or after they both fall and get smote to Neutral? >_>
Jk. A longstanding rivalry between my LG PC and a LE character is something I've always hoped for, but alas they always seem to end fisticuffs.
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762
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Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2010, 3:45 AM |
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Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Location: Florida
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Tell me about it.
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