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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 16:54 PM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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Nekhy wrote: I see we got some maternity wear included with the HAK. 
Hey, one of my female chars is wearing that and she ain't prego! I like that robe. >: (
I think it makes her butt look good, though. 
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 18:05 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam
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Dwagin wrote: Blackdragon12121 wrote: Out of curiousity, iff the Katana is so disliked for not fitting in to the world, why bother having it in the module to begin with? Either have something in and support it fully or just cut it. Thats like smashing your hand off to get rid off a hangnail. Its in the original game, and there's no reason to not support something that's a base item in the game. Nothing wrong with the base katanas in appearance, whereas a lot of other weapons needed realistic looking options/updates to look better. Probably the most ready example of weapons needing a visual update were rapiers. The existing models for that type of weapon were just.. wrong wrong wrong. Plus what Disco said about extra effort.
Correction: the ones that really needed an update were flails and morningstars. I added a flail that's actually a ball on a chain and a morningstar that's a big mace with spikes.
This is a flail, but in NWN it's called a morningstar.
And this is a morningstar... which NWN doesn't really have.
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Galia_Shiv
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 18:08 PM |
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Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Location: A State Of Trance
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I would like better chest pieces for full plate and bikinis (the one bab drops is an ugly chest piece)

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Neus Scario
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 18:28 PM |
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Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Location: Kentucky
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Dev Disco wrote: That wouldn't be sensible. We don't have to invest anything in the current selection of katanas. It would take effort to get rid of them. That doesn't mean you have to actively expand their selection, especially if you have to make choices to keep your hak size down. There are some good, small file sized ones that I used back when I was messing around with modules. Of course, weapons in general aren't such an important thing compared to clothes, anyway. TormakSaber wrote: Yups, Amia is Faerun flavored, which means classical medieval. Chaarcters can come over from Kara-Tur but they'll have to adapt to a culture that doesn't wear wood sandals and kimonos. 
Clothing I can understand (and even then, the only limitation on that is module-wise), but I don't think there's any particular problem with footwear (like waraji, etc). WYSIWYG for spell effects, also, I can understand - If you're going to try and expand that to characters, though, 50% of Amian males look exactly the same. (I might be misunderstanding the context of this quote, though, as I can't seem to find it in the Topic review.)
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Pony
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 18:47 PM |
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Joined: 07 May 2005
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I hate you all!
Everyone one of you!
Gaah!
The cool new hat doesnt work with the fencing style!

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Moonangel
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 18:51 PM |
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Joined: 28 Nov 2009
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Got to be careful with adding weapons which differ too much from the original anyway... visual effects don't morph with the weapon itself, resulting in stuff like this.
It's a scythe crafted to look like a sword-thing, but the visual still shapes like the edge of the scythe. Even adding a sword with a longer or shorter edge will end up looking funny like that.
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msheeler
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 19:12 PM |
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Joined: 17 Dec 2008 Location: eastern USA
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Merrien wrote: Dev Disco wrote: That's in, but can't be crafted because it's a female only model. Merrien will make some prefab clothing, though. Add short skirt option to the list; check!
WAIT!! WHERE!! WHEN!! Mama's gotta go to the bank and get some money for a new outfit!
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 19:16 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam
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Neus Scario wrote: TormakSaber wrote: Yups, Amia is Faerun flavored, which means classical medieval. Chaarcters can come over from Kara-Tur but they'll have to adapt to a culture that doesn't wear wood sandals and kimonos.  Clothing I can understand (and even then, the only limitation on that is module-wise), but I don't think there's any particular problem with footwear (like waraji, etc). WYSIWYG for spell effects, also, I can understand - If you're going to try and expand that to characters, though, 50% of Amian males look exactly the same. (I might be misunderstanding the context of this quote, though, as I can't seem to find it in the Topic review.)
Sandals are in.
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Lally
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 20:04 PM |
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Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Leather chair, USA. Tell me about your mother.
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Moonangel wrote: Got to be careful with adding weapons which differ too much from the original anyway... visual effects don't morph with the weapon itself, resulting in stuff like this.  It's a scythe crafted to look like a sword-thing, but the visual still shapes like the edge of the scythe. Even adding a sword with a longer or shorter edge will end up looking funny like that.
Amia can has guan yu? O.o
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Moonangel
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 20:09 PM |
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Joined: 28 Nov 2009
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Uhm, if that's what the sword thing is, then those are in CEP yep. CEP has all kinds of asian weapons, like nunchucks, punching daggers, sai, stick swords, firewheels, reverse grip daggers... though most of the laters don't have working feats for them, in addition to the visual effects not applying properly.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 20:21 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam
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Well, good that I ignored the lot of 'em!
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Dwagin
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 20:22 PM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Location: The Land of Nod
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Guan yu? No way Lollypop. Thats a Nagamaki! <3
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jimbono1
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 22:25 PM |
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Location: England
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Please god tell me theres an actual Velsharoon Diety Cloak in the HAK! And also, is there no chest peice to go with the robe model which looks basically like a bottem part of a Dress? for plate armour anyhow, would make funtimes for me playing a Robed Armoured guy, instead for now i can just stick with the sleeveless wizard robe which looks nice enough, just wondering however 
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 22:28 PM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam
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I made quite a nice combi of skirt and armour. You need to play with the colours and belts.
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jimbono1
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Posted: Wed, Mar 03 2010, 23:42 PM |
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Location: England
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Bah! i cannot play with colours! Darkest/Dark Grey and Pure black are like the only colours i use x] Necrophants ftw! Also the Velsharan cloak isn't always Red is it? red is a forbidden colour for the Velsharan D:
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 1:20 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Dev Disco wrote: I added about half of the deity cloaks, based on the number of followers when I made the hak. It takes time to update the crafting menu, though, so you'll have to be patient.
Ew...Honestly I'd have personally preferred the normal blank ones then those horrible Diety ones. Ah well.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 3:44 AM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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Can i use the HAK stuff to make the Ebil Death Domain stuff look prettier. . .whilst I nerf it so hard all the Velsharrans will weep tears of blood.
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Lally
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 4:00 AM |
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Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Leather chair, USA. Tell me about your mother.
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This one time when I was little I was at this kid's birthday party and his mom got him a cabbage patch kid and he wanted a boy cabbage patch with brown hair and she could only find one with blond hair and she stood out in the cold ALL DAY to get this cabbage patch kid and spent lots and lots of money on it and when he opened the present he cried and threw it at her.
Juuust saying.
>.>
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Grymia
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 4:16 AM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Location: Kohlingen, and a Basement in Canada
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Lalelilolu wrote: This one time when I was little I was at this kid's birthday party and his mom got him a cabbage patch kid and he wanted a boy cabbage patch with brown hair and she could only find one with blond hair and she stood out in the cold ALL DAY to get this cabbage patch kid and spent lots and lots of money on it and when he opened the present he cried and threw it at her.
Juuust saying.
>.>
A rather.. sad sad sad story to be sure. *hugs*..
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Dwagin
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 5:02 AM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Location: The Land of Nod
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Lalelilolu wrote: This one time when I was little I was at this kid's birthday party and his mom got him a cabbage patch kid and he wanted a boy cabbage patch with brown hair and she could only find one with blond hair and she stood out in the cold ALL DAY to get this cabbage patch kid and spent lots and lots of money on it and when he opened the present he cried and threw it at her.
Juuust saying.
>.>
Reason #10,502 why I believe some species eat their offspring.
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Gunz
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 5:26 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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Lalelilolu wrote: This one time when I was little I was at this kid's birthday party and his mom got him a cabbage patch kid and he wanted a boy cabbage patch with brown hair and she could only find one with blond hair and she stood out in the cold ALL DAY to get this cabbage patch kid and spent lots and lots of money on it and when he opened the present he cried and threw it at her.
Juuust saying.
>.>
Seriously? How selfish.... horrible mother... 
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Lord-Hadeis
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 8:47 AM |
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Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Location: Netherlands, Schoonhoven
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Nice discussion and all. Personally I feel there aren't near enough medieval correct weapons and armour in it but the main thing.
Is any amount of bitching here going to result in changed to the HAK or is this discussion just pointless on that part. If its pointless do tell then I can stop reading this. Just curious.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 8:53 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam
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MoshingChris wrote: Can i use the HAK stuff to make the Ebil Death Domain stuff look prettier. . .whilst I nerf it so hard all the Velsharrans will weep tears of blood.
I guess so. You should take a good look at the human heads/torsos, there's a lot of undead stuff in there now. Body parts 200+.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 8:57 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam
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hadeismetirion wrote: Nice discussion and all. Personally I feel there aren't near enough medieval correct weapons and armour in it but the main thing.
Is any amount of bitching here going to result in changed to the HAK or is this discussion just pointless on that part. If its pointless do tell then I can stop reading this. Just curious.
Well, it is pointless to complain about the weapons as they aren't even available yet. Armour... well, I did have a look around again yesterday, and I am afraid that I found exactly one chest piece that made me go like "O, it has all sexes, all races, all phenotypes, and it doesn't look like soft-porn and it doesn't look like some monster took a crap on your pc and it doesn't look a few centuries out of place". One. I guess I'll add that one day.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 9:48 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Lalelilolu wrote: This one time when I was little I was at this kid's birthday party and his mom got him a cabbage patch kid and he wanted a boy cabbage patch with brown hair and she could only find one with blond hair and she stood out in the cold ALL DAY to get this cabbage patch kid and spent lots and lots of money on it and when he opened the present he cried and threw it at her.
Juuust saying.
>.>
Bit different. Cloaks that have no diety symbols are a little more universally useable then cloaks that do have diety symbols on them. I know personally I won't be using many of the deity ones for characters I have that don't worship any particular god, because being confused as a worshipper of a particular god can equal possible death quite fast, even if you don't mean it to be that case.
WYSIWYG after all, intended or not.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 10:07 AM |
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HRM Chicken I of Amia
Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: Amsterdam
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I hate them too, but an overwhelming majority wanted them. Majority happy, me happy.
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Lally
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 10:11 AM |
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Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Leather chair, USA. Tell me about your mother.
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Oh no it wasn't about the cloaks Sel, it was my failed attempt at being catty. Why can't I be more catty..why!

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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 10:29 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Lalelilolu wrote: Oh no it wasn't about the cloaks Sel, it was my failed attempt at being catty. Why can't I be more catty..why! 
Be blunt, not catty. Take lessons from Tormie & Won.
*Hides*
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jimbono1
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 10:31 AM |
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Location: England
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MoshingChris wrote: Can i use the HAK stuff to make the Ebil Death Domain stuff look prettier. . .whilst I nerf it so hard all the Velsharrans will weep tears of blood.
Pshk, Real Velsharan use Magic and Death Domains, Evil is one of them but its not worth it if you intend to RP A proper Necrophant/mancer and also, i forbid nerfing the Death Domain summon! Necromancy is supposed to be best achieved through Divine, and if Arcane Necromancers with winterwights can beat divine users in a pet fight that makes no sense  if anything you should buff the Death Domain summon >=] and the normal skin for the Death Domain is ugly... very ugly.. which is why anyone with a care for its summon will spend 10DC's on getting a reskin!
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Really Evil Pigeon
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 11:04 AM |
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Joined: 01 Aug 2005
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Dev Disco wrote: That's in, but can't be crafted because it's a female only model. Merrien will make some prefab clothing, though.
what would it cost to get Keri's barely restrained bosom outfit to havea m mini skirt on it then.
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Merrien
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 16:39 PM |
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Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas
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Lalelilolu wrote: This one time when I was little I was at this kid's birthday party and his mom got him a cabbage patch kid and he wanted a boy cabbage patch with brown hair and she could only find one with blond hair and she stood out in the cold ALL DAY to get this cabbage patch kid and spent lots and lots of money on it and when he opened the present he cried and threw it at her.
Juuust saying.
>.>
*throws a cabbage patch doll at Lalelilolu*
<_< just kidding; I did make a point of thanking, and am definitely thankful for what we have  But, yes, I understand the frustration; greedy sons of bleep we players are. Nasty...Greedy...Tricksie...... We wants it! We must have it! They took it from us they did! (okay, I'm done).
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Lally
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 18:39 PM |
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Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Leather chair, USA. Tell me about your mother.
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I'm just being a brat  Oh I'd totally be lying if I said I wasn't bummed about not having the chests in as well. To be fair I think I had the jump on you guys. But if it means not having my pixel boobs sway in the wind like a flag I'll settle 
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Merrien
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Posted: Thu, Mar 04 2010, 20:50 PM |
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Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas
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Lalelilolu wrote: I'm just being a brat  Oh I'd totally be lying if I said I wasn't bummed about not having the chests in as well. To be fair I think I had the jump on you guys. But if it means not having my pixel boobs sway in the wind like a flag I'll settle 
I'd trade a ridiculous amount of swayage for purties, but that's just me... I know it's not up for discussion, so just a personal observation, lol. You're right though, I should put the word "ridiculous" there in bold 
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