Bad Numbers!
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| Author: | 555444333 [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 14:25 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Annoying and mostly irrelevant blablah about DCs |
Story time is so meh! It's not a problem that it is goneski. |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 14:30 PM ] |
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Bad Numbers! |
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| Author: | 555444333 [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 15:08 PM ] |
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Why? It just ties DM's up watching people post walls of text when dynamic world changing stuff is happening elsewhere! |
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| Author: | Yossarin [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 15:20 PM ] |
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No it doesn't. We have no obligation to stand there and observe. Personally, I'm usually off working on these dynamic world-changing events so these people can tell stories about it. |
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| Author: | The Incognitos [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 15:33 PM ] |
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classic (see above post) |
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| Author: | 555444333 [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 15:46 PM ] |
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Fair enough but I know that Story Night ued to be guaranteed DC's for surfacers, and I don't want it again! |
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| Author: | Zante [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 15:55 PM ] |
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Then don't come. |
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| Author: | Brown Blur [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 15:55 PM ] |
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555444333 wrote: Fair enough but I know that Story Night ued to be guaranteed DC's for surfacers, and I don't want it again!
You know this, hmm? |
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| Author: | 555444333 [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 16:08 PM ] |
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Oh aye. :) Anyway, 'Then Don't Come' doesn't address the issue, Zante. |
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| Author: | herkles [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 16:10 PM ] |
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I think what numbers is saying that story night basicly gave you a DC, all the time, you just had to go there ever week and you would start getting lots, sort of like a machine that gave DCs, while places like the UD doesn't have things like that. |
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| Author: | Carter [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 16:11 PM ] |
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555444333 wrote: Anyway, 'Then Don't Come' doesn't address the issue, Zante.
Yeah. Actually, it doesn't. Numbers is right? Weird... Anyway, a real solution would be for DMs to give DCs individually to people who are telling stories. I know that the times I was there, a lot of people would just go AFK for the entire thing, and come back to a DC or two, just because a DM would swing by and drop one on everyone. What I usually saw was a minority of people actually RPing, and only a small percentile of them providing DC-worthy RP, those being pretty exclusively the story-tellers, and not even all of them. |
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| Author: | Zante [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 16:21 PM ] |
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People getting DC's is a bad thing these days? |
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| Author: | Carter [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 16:22 PM ] |
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DCs are a reward for excellent roleplay, not a reward for simply attending an event, especially when you barely/don't contribute. |
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| Author: | 555444333 [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 16:33 PM ] |
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Carter wrote: DCs are a reward for excellent roleplay, not a reward for simply attending an event, especially when you barely/don't contribute.
This to the power of ten to the nine. |
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| Author: | -Dark Faith- [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:01 PM ] |
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herkles wrote: I think what numbers is saying that story night basicly gave you a DC, all the time, you just had to go there ever week and you would start getting lots, sort of like a machine that gave DCs, while places like the UD doesn't have things like that.
Oh, right. So if the UD had it then all would be fine?  Killer logic. Be in either case I'm not into "Be there, get a DC, even if you said nothing".. then again, I've yet to attend a single story night, haha.
People shouldn't treat the event as a DC machine though, but rather as an opportunity to share some tales and, in my char's case, get to meet some new folks *shrug* Anyway, 6-8PM or 10PM on saturday *nod* |
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| Author: | garzgoyle [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:08 PM ] |
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Well to be honest I'd still swing by Story Night if I am able, DC's or no. I always had a good time when I did and not always did I get these "guaranteed" DC's. Admittedly, I didn't always hang out for the entirety. I don't go to events or roleplay to get DC's, I go because they are fun, and for me Story Night was fun. I say bring it back! |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:10 PM ] |
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I say: shut up about DCs and go there if you like to tell or hear a story. |
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| Author: | Athyonn Ursidae [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:12 PM ] |
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Carter wrote: DCs are a reward for excellent roleplay, not a reward for simply attending an event, especially when you barely/don't contribute.
Consider for a moment that only one person can effectively talk at anyone time when telling a story after all. There is only so much the other participants can do bar emote their reactions to what is being said. Well unless you are just rude that is. |
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| Author: | Carter [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:19 PM ] |
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Athyonn Ursidae wrote: Carter wrote: DCs are a reward for excellent roleplay, not a reward for simply attending an event, especially when you barely/don't contribute. Consider for a moment that only one person can effectively talk at anyone time when telling a story after all. There is only so much the other participants can do bar emote their reactions to what is being said. Well unless you are just rude that is. Tell a story, get a DC. I think it's a pretty straightforward process! There's only so much you can do, yeah, but a DC is a reward for good RP. Whether or not you have the opportunity for great RP is totally irreverent. When you don't have that chance during other things, do you say, "I deserve a DC because I could have participated, but didn't have the chance"? If you want a DC, you need to earn it. Simple as that. There's a huge number of opportunities to fit in your DC-worthy RP at Story Night, and if you don't take them, that's your problem. You don't earn a DC for standing in Cordor silently, or even standing in the most dramatic place possible silently, so why should you earn one for standing silently at Story Night? |
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| Author: | Athyonn Ursidae [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:43 PM ] |
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Quote: Tell a story, get a DC. I think it's a pretty straightforward process! There's only so much you can do, yeah, but a DC is a reward for good RP. Whether or not you have the opportunity for great RP is totally irreverent. When you don't have that chance during other things, do you say, "I deserve a DC because I could have participated, but didn't have the chance"?
If you want a DC, you need to earn it. Simple as that. There's a huge number of opportunities to fit in your DC-worthy RP at Story Night, and if you don't take them, that's your problem. You don't earn a DC for standing in Cordor silently, or even standing in the most dramatic place possible silently, so why should you earn one for standing silently at Story Night? Agreed whole heartedly, give the story tellers DC's and anyone who actively contributes. Oh and make sure that it doesnt take six hours and that everyone gets chance to their story if they wish. |
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| Author: | Zante [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:47 PM ] |
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Seriously, I find it really demotivating that an attempt to bring back a harmless RP event many people enjoyed gets dissed so much. Is there something people won't complain or argue about? |
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| Author: | Brown Blur [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:49 PM ] |
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Hmmm....I'm not sure DC's should be given for it at all... |
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| Author: | Pony [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 17:58 PM ] |
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| Author: | Zante [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 18:02 PM ] |
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What about leaving the DC giving or not giving up to the dms? |
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| Author: | Lord-Hadeis [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 18:17 PM ] |
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Oh my goodness! Someone might get DC's and someone else doesn't? By the Gods and all of that! How terrible! Quickly vote to have all the DM's removed! All you whiners, just go and make some decent roleplay if you want DC's. For %#@*! sake go cry me a river, this is the most childish thing I've heard in a long time on the forum. |
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| Author: | Talon [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 18:20 PM ] |
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hadeismetirion wrote: All you whiners, just go and make some decent roleplay if you want DC's. For %#@*! sake go cry me a river, this is the most childish thing I've heard in a long time on the forum.
Ironically, the quote above is "the most childish thing I've heard in a long time on the forum." |
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| Author: | Gunz [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 18:22 PM ] |
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Zante wrote: Seriously, I find it really demotivating that an attempt to bring back a harmless RP event many people enjoyed gets dissed so much. Is there something people won't complain or argue about?
Sadly, no. And because it's the internet, even worse  .
This is an event to RP, if DM's give DC's great, if they don't, great. They aren't forced to. Neither is anyone forced to attend. |
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| Author: | IronAngel [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 18:22 PM ] |
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Uh, yeah. It's really irrelevant to the topic at hand. DMs reward the kind of stuff they want to reward. My gut feeling is that DMs nowadays are less inclined to DC Story Night guests. Or maybe not. It still has nothing to do with voting on a time, which is the topic at hand. |
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| Author: | Kardolian [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 18:24 PM ] |
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This topic is about which time would fit for those interested in going to Story Night, not a flamewar about who should get DCs or not. If you're not interested in going to the event, or only show negativity when someone tries to actually create an RP opportunity for people, then simply don't post? |
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| Author: | Lord-Hadeis [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 18:27 PM ] |
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I could be wrong, but it's sure going in my top ten *grins* Besides I'm feeling to lazy to search the forum on it. Why not have a UD story night too, or is that to femmi for the macho drow. Maybe a convention of the discussion of torture technieks would be more fitting. I'll just attend both, get double the DC's hahahaha |
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| Author: | Amarice-Elaraliel [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 19:00 PM ] |
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Rest assured... I am not a DM and I do not have the ability to hand out DC. So what the DM do or not do around Story Night and weather they deem it worthy their attention is completely up to them. |
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| Author: | 555444333 [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 19:01 PM ] |
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Well that and I just hate stories... I'm so glad you all got your knickers in a twist though. My basic gripe was - Turning up for Story Night used to be a guarentee'd DC. I think I even took a surfacer character I made to test my theory along once who did nothing. I think I went away for a coffee. I came back and had a nice shiny DC. I see people who bust their butts and nothing. I see people who are in the right place without any connection to events get that green glow. Cheeses me! |
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| Author: | aurelius311 [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 19:15 PM ] |
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i think people who constantly emote for no real reason at events should intentionally not be given DCs. you arent contributing, youre distracting. |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 19:16 PM ] |
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Folks, stop talking about DCs. Make another topic if you want, but not here. |
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| Author: | Delarwyn [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 19:29 PM ] |
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555444333 wrote: Well that and I just hate stories...
I'm so glad you all got your knickers in a twist though. My basic gripe was - Turning up for Story Night used to be a guarentee'd DC. I think I even took a surfacer character I made to test my theory along once who did nothing. I think I went away for a coffee. I came back and had a nice shiny DC. I see people who bust their butts and nothing. I see people who are in the right place without any connection to events get that green glow. Cheeses me! Numbers you dont get DCs because it is really tough for anyone including DMs to appreciate anything you do, because even when you do great you are such a sour person that even the people that try to be your friend sometime question if it is worthy the time. And then you ask, why nobody likes me? Well, that is one of the reasons, you pick a nice tread where people were trying to organize and turn into a selfish discussion about DC. I think Story Night is great. I have my bard presenting there before. I have heard many fun stories and I had really enjoyable moments of story telling there. And guess what? I didn't get any DCs on it and I didn't care either, because what I enjoy about it is the ability of people to tell stories, their emotes, and all that they can present. Rith once told us a story that made me applaud alone from my chair having loads of giggles. No DC can give me that. So, please just restrain from comment when you have nothing good to say about things people are trying to do for the good of many people that enjoy that type of thing. |
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| Author: | Lord-Hadeis [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 19:43 PM ] |
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When I first started playing Amia I went to three of those story nights, didn't get a single DC, Heck in a year I've got eight of them and I don't really shy away from role play at all. Does it bother me? No. Sure I'd like two more for something special I had in mind, but waiting for something and doing something for something makes it all the more fun when I finally get it. (Side note... why am I posting so much here... This can't go right very long *looks around paranoid*) |
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| Author: | Brown Blur [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 20:26 PM ] |
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555444333 wrote: I'm so glad you all got your knickers in a twist though. *LOL* Why? 555444333 wrote: My basic gripe was - Turning up for Story Night used to be a guaranteed DC... No. Just......no. |
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| Author: | Yurell [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 20:45 PM ] |
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Brown Blur wrote: 555444333 wrote: My basic gripe was - Turning up for Story Night used to be a guaranteed DC... No. Just......no. What's wrong with that? Those who deserve DCs get DCs, and those who spend the entire time AFK sitting there don't. That said, any DM that supervises gets to make up their own mind about who they DC, and no one else really has the right to tell them who they can and can;t and nor should they be forced to list down everyone who RPd - surely, if a large amount of people do, it is better to see a couple of people who don't deserve it get one than a couple of people who do miss out by accident. |
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| Author: | ClockworkRed [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 20:54 PM ] |
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Hint: Disco likes to give DCs to participants of lesbian weddings. If you want a DC event, host a weekly lesbian mariage. |
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| Author: | Brown Blur [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 20:57 PM ] |
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You misunderstand me, Yurell (sorry, likely the fault was mine). I was just saying (as have others already, of course, and rightly) that Nummaz was wrong in saying it was a guaranteed DC just for attending. |
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| Author: | Dwagin [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 21:05 PM ] |
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I.. am confused.. is this a split topic? |
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| Author: | Yurell [ Wed, Apr 08 2009, 21:06 PM ] |
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It's numbers complaining that: attending story night = free DC |
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| Author: | The Cobbit [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 0:33 AM ] |
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So... Basically there's worry about a popular RP event returning because people might get little attaboys. ...Right... |
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| Author: | The Incognitos [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 0:45 AM ] |
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Can you give the people that tell crap stories a Nightmare Coin to discourage them from telling more stories? A single sentence about hair, the stuff on your head, with 12 adjectives... Ugh! |
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| Author: | Delarwyn [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 0:46 AM ] |
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Talking about DCs. I just had a very good and fun time in a RP event made by players and without DCs and honestly, I didn't mind it at all. 
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| Author: | xordae [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 1:06 AM ] |
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The Incognitos wrote: Can you give the people that tell crap stories a Nightmare Coin to discourage them from telling more stories? A single sentence about hair, the stuff on your head, with 12 adjectives...
Ugh! Usually I'm a right doomsaying bastard but in this thread, the above quote was about as good as it got.
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| Author: | Mr Mago [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 1:43 AM ] |
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Do people actually concern themselves about getting / not getting DCs? |
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| Author: | soundofastream [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 2:11 AM ] |
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Okie dokes, I'm going to host a weekly 'Sacrifice Night' in the Underdark for all Ghaunadans, come and watch, take part, be a sacrifice, get a DC! 
It'll beat anything Story Night has to offer hehe!
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| Author: | Gunz [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 2:18 AM ] |
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Someone in the UD please come up with something in Ultrinnan or Underport that happens often so that there is a possibility for DM attention, and thereby DC's, so that the Spiders stop chittering?
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| Author: | BlackDahlya [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 3:00 AM ] |
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It's Numbers and Herkles who said anything. Stop generalizing, please, even if it's meant in jest? There are more players to the drow population besides the above mentioned. 
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