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Is that class not allowed in the server? I'm just wondering.

Yes, though I've not seen anyone use it.

Drat! I was really gunning for that position with one of my characters... there goes that story. Oh well!

Heh... Wait, powerbuilding?

Yeah, some like that.

You want that class? You got plans for it? Seeking RP? Do it!

I did the same with Harper Scout. ^^ Can't say it's got a bead of use yet in battle but so far so GREAT with RP bonuses on possibility.

I have a PDK. While the other stuff could use a duration boost, if nothing else, Heroic Shield is so good that once a lot of people have experience with it there will be calls for it to be nerfed.

Have you ever used it?.

Okay, okay. IF THEY ARE ALLOWED, then how come I cannot select it during level up? I have all the requirements to become the class.

And "drat" is a word. It's a less cursing version of "damn it".

Obviously I do, I'm telling you, it doesn't take that much to achieve the class.

I know of two people with PDK's, one was Demented, who played Kas'udi. The other was Kicker.

Torzeng wrote:

My harper scout is actually quite nasty in battle...and has even defeated the odd pure mage. Sure, she bled all over him and blinded him before finishing him off but it was fun!

Qirlan never forgave himself after that...hehe...

AusGre wrote:

Is that class not allowed in the server? I'm just wondering.

Wolfking6116 wrote:

Yes, though I've not seen anyone use it.

AusGre wrote:

Drat! I was really gunning for that position with one of my characters... there goes that story. Oh well!

What do you mean 'drat'?...use it, he actually meant it 'is' allowed.

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Grammatical lessons on structure of confuzzeling English time! *cheers*

"Is that class (purple dragon knight) not allowed in the server?" is also interpreted "Is not that class allowed?" ...which requires a 'Class is not' or a 'Class is', response.

"Yes, (you're right, that class is not allowed)"

"No, (that class is not allowed)"

...both ways = no

Instead complete sentences like. "Yes, that class is allowed on the server" avoids the confusion.

Rewording the question also clears the confusion:

A better way to ask if the class is allowed or not is for example:
"Is the purple dragon knight class allowed in the server?"

"Yes, (the purple dragon knight class is allowed)" or
"No, (the purple dragon knight class is not allowed)"

To give an answer to the original question:

In 'this case' it is a definite "Yes, the class is allowed" and clears up that confusion right away ^^

Author:	AusGre [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 5:00 AM ]
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Is that class not allowed in the server? I'm just wondering.

Author:	Wolfking6116 [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 5:05 AM ]
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Yes, though I've not seen anyone use it.

Author:	AusGre [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 5:06 AM ]
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Drat! I was really gunning for that position with one of my characters... there goes that story. Oh well!

Author:	Maverick00053 [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 5:12 AM ]
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Psh, do it then? Just because noone has done it yet why not do it? People dont do it because its a horrible class to make a powerbuild with, everyone builds their charaters at one time or another by power they can provide. Easy way to spot the strong classes over the ewwwy ones

Author:	Torzeng [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 5:37 AM ]
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Heh... Wait, powerbuilding? Yeah, some like that. You want that class? You got plans for it? Seeking RP? Do it! I did the same with Harper Scout. ^^ Can't say it's got a bead of use yet in battle but so far so GREAT with RP bonuses on possibility.

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Author:	Azrael [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 5:40 AM ]
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AusGre wrote: Is that class not allowed in the server? I'm just wondering. Wolfking6116 wrote: Yes, though I've not seen anyone use it. AusGre wrote: Drat! I was really gunning for that position with one of my characters... there goes that story. Oh well! What do you mean 'drat'?...use it, he actually meant it 'is' allowed. --- Grammatical lessons on structure of confuzzeling English time! cheers "Is that class (purple dragon knight) not allowed in the server?" is also interpreted "Is not that class allowed?" ...which requires a 'Class is not' or a 'Class is', response. "Yes, (you're right, that class is not allowed)" "No, (that class is not allowed)" ...both ways = no Instead complete sentences like. "Yes, that class is allowed on the server" avoids the confusion. Rewording the question also clears the confusion: A better way to ask if the class is allowed or not is for example: "Is the purple dragon knight class allowed in the server?" "Yes, (the purple dragon knight class is allowed)" or "No, (the purple dragon knight class is not allowed)" To give an answer to the original question: In 'this case' it is a definite "Yes, the class is allowed" and clears up that confusion right away ^^

Author:	soundofastream [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 5:56 AM ]
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Torzeng wrote: Heh... Wait, powerbuilding? Yeah, some like that. You want that class? You got plans for it? Seeking RP? Do it! I did the same with Harper Scout. ^^ Can't say it's got a bead of use yet in battle but so far so GREAT with RP bonuses on possibility. My harper scout is actually quite nasty in battle...and has even defeated the odd pure mage. Sure, she bled all over him and blinded him before finishing him off but it was fun! Qirlan never forgave himself after that...hehe...

Author:	Sokar Rostau [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 6:21 AM ]
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I have a PDK. While the other stuff could use a duration boost, if nothing else, Heroic Shield is so good that once a lot of people have experience with it there will be calls for it to be nerfed. Status Mage + PDK with Heroic Shield + Called Shot spamming AA + Curse Singing Bard = massive AC boost for the tank.

Author:	Lord-Hadeis [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 6:40 AM ]
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Yes guess the only thing that matters is kill ratio.

Author:	Dramatic_Prince [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 10:15 AM ]
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Sokar Rostau wrote: I have a PDK. While the other stuff could use a duration boost, if nothing else, Heroic Shield is so good that once a lot of people have experience with it there will be calls for it to be nerfed. It lasts ONE round. That's shorter than true strike. How much more do you want to nerf such a worthless skill? They should be modded to make them actually worth being a PRC.

Author:	Sokar Rostau [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 10:24 AM ]
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Have you ever used it? On the surface it looks like a worthless feat, in practice it is quite powerful. HS is a Free Action which means you can use it every single Round regardless of whatever else you are doing, where you are on the map or what your current status is.

Author:	Uberuce [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 11:11 AM ]
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Arf...you mean it also works from the portraits at the side?

Author:	Sokar Rostau [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 12:15 PM ]
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Not only does it work from portraits, the only thing that prevents you using it is death - and I mean the only thing.

Author:	Herr Delta Houdini [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 12:37 PM ]
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I know of two people with PDK's, one was Demented, who played Kas'udi. The other was Kicker.

Author:	Uberuce [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 12:41 PM ]
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Now I have an image of a guys being helped to his feet after getting wtfpwnt in the Wiltun sparring pit and wondering why the four guys in jodphurs and red jackets standing up on the battlements are giggling quite so much.

Author:	Craig deathwalker [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 12:56 PM ]
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Bastions of war beefed up the pdk a bit, now the class is so frigging overpowered everyone is using it. Im tempted to make a build with it the extra ab is so nice it's such a pvp/boss killer class though.

Author:	AusGre [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:25 PM ]
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I'm sorry. I really shouldn't have said that. It just irritates me, I'm sorry again. I mean, I've achieved everything, I even took a class in rogue to assure I had persuasion and intimidation. I have the feat for Mounted Combat and the +4 Attack Bonus. Yet, it still didn't come up. And how would I achieve it? I'm a little confused on what that process is?

Author:	Yurell [ Fri, Apr 10 2009, 1:04 AM ]
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Can you tell us your current character build? I'm guessing at least four fighter?

Author:	AusGre [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:11 PM ]
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Okay, okay. IF THEY ARE ALLOWED, then how come I cannot select it during level up? I have all the requirements to become the class. And "drat" is a word. It's a less cursing version of "damn it".

Author:	TormakSaber [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:12 PM ]
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AusGre wrote: Okay, okay. IF THEY ARE ALLOWED, then how come I cannot select it during level up? I have all the requirements to become the class. And "drat" is a word. It's a less cursing version of "damn it". Obviously you don't fulfill all the requirements.

Author:	AusGre [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:13 PM ]
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Obviously I do, I'm telling you, it doesn't take that much to achieve the class.

Author:	Maverick00053 [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:18 PM ]
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AusGre wrote: Obviously I do, I'm telling you, it doesn't take that much to achieve the class. Then go achieve it? >.>

Author:	TormakSaber [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:25 PM ]
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AusGre wrote: Obviously I do, I'm telling you, it doesn't take that much to achieve the class. You don't. Or you would be a PDK. Common messups: Do you have required skills in ranks, not mod? Do you meet alignment? Do you meet Base Attack Bonus? This isn't your AB, it's a separate number on your sheet/

Author:	AusGre [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:27 PM ]
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Yes, I have the Base Attack Bonus, I'm sure of it. Yes, I meat the Alignment: None Evil or Chaotic, I am Neutral Good. Yes, I have the required Ranks.

Author:	Gravemaskin [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:40 PM ]
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2k8ste wrote: I know of two people with PDK's, one was Demented, who played Kas'udi. The other was Kicker. Yush! Demented with her Kelly Paladin, Skye. Was hilarious to see all the OOC banter and questions about the orb thingy over our heads when she used the +4 AC ability. Alas she's left the server.

Author:	Halecta [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:40 PM ]
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Do you have the Mounted Combat feat?

Author:	AusGre [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:45 PM ]
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Yes, I do.

Author:	AusGre [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 22:55 PM ]
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Yes, yes, yes and yes. Oh well, it doesn't matter anyway. I'll make something else!

Author:	Phantom-D [ Thu, Apr 09 2009, 23:47 PM ]
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soundofastream wrote: Torzeng wrote: Heh... Wait, powerbuilding? Yeah, some like that. You want that class? You got plans for it? Seeking RP? Do it! I did the same with Harper Scout. ^^ Can't say it's got a bead of use yet in battle but so far so GREAT with RP bonuses on possibility. My harper scout is actually quite nasty in battle...and has even defeated the odd pure mage. Sure, she bled all over him and blinded him before finishing him off but it was fun! Qirlan never forgave himself after that...hehe... This is kind of a fair point. PvP is almost never fair or in an arena so getting lucky / having the upper edge doesn't always matter. You can RP and build as you feel without too much worry if you don't mind not soloing spawns.

Author:	Yurell [ Fri, Apr 10 2009, 1:00 AM ]
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Azrael wrote: AusGre wrote: Is that class not allowed in the server? I'm just wondering. Wolfking6116 wrote: Yes, though I've not seen anyone use it. AusGre wrote: Drat! I was really gunning for that position with one of my characters... there goes that story. Oh well! What do you mean 'drat'?...use it, he actually meant it 'is' allowed. --- Grammatical lessons on structure of confuzzeling English time! cheers "Is that class (purple dragon knight) not allowed in the server?" is also interpreted "Is not that class allowed?" ...which requires a 'Class is not' or a 'Class is', response. "Yes, (you're right, that class is not allowed)" "No, (that class is not allowed)" ...both ways = no Instead complete sentences like. "Yes, that class is allowed on the server" avoids the confusion. Rewording the question also clears the confusion: A better way to ask if the class is allowed or not is for example: "Is the purple dragon knight class allowed in the server?" "Yes, (the purple dragon knight class is allowed)" or "No, (the purple dragon knight class is not allowed)" To give an answer to the original question: In 'this case' it is a definite "Yes, the class is allowed" and clears up that confusion right away ^^ Grammatically incorrect to use yes - no is correct. however, it is used as a colloquialism. "Is it not" is a structure like "Isn't it", in which the negative seems to be ignored for the purpose of modern spoken English. So if you want clarity ... best to take Azrael's suggestion or expand on your answer. But as it is, go with whatever class you like.

Author:	TormakSaber [ Fri, Apr 10 2009, 5:53 AM ]
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The class can be taken. It is not bugged. I speak confidently and truthfully because I do know I'm right. You do not meet the pre-reqs. If you did, you could select the class.

Author:	Sokar Rostau [ Fri, Apr 10 2009, 7:01 AM ]
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I think the most common mistakes people make with pre-reqs are confusing BAB with AB and assuming that you can take a PrC as soon as you reach the required BAB, in this case +4. A Fighter, for example, reaches 4BAB at level 4, but you cannot take PDK until level 5 because you don't meet the requirements until after you have leveled up. Also, I sort of remember the PDK pre-reqs being misquoted somewhere, whether that's in-game or on the NWNWiki I don't recall, as saying you need 1 in one of the Skills when you need 2. I might be mistaken about this one. They also have a very stupid pre-req - you need 1 Ride and Mounted Combat, among other things, to qualify... but you need 2 Ride to qualify for Mounted Combat.

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