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Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 14:17 PM ]
Post subject:  Waukeen's Chest
Yea. Well, as the topic says, I've got a question regarding the chest of wakeen.

How does it work? What is it? ...Why does it dissapear sometimes?
Author:  Nekhy [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 14:22 PM ]
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Does it still exist? That's like a... relic from the primeval times!

It splits the loot equally among all party members, giving everybody an equal amount of gold.
Author:  555444333 [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 14:57 PM ]
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and it sucks, which is why everyone ABC's
Author:  Scimiter [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 15:00 PM ]
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Though is a quick way to sell if you don't want to run over to the merchant building and not have the 5000 sell price cap the NPC in the temple gives you. Just make sure you're not in a party less you want to share ;)
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 15:12 PM ]
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Thing is ...when you speak to the little servant outside, she ...sort of Removes the chest, and it's not usable untill next reset.

Why does she do that?!
Author:  555444333 [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 16:57 PM ]
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Originally it nuked and respawned the item so you'd get it if it was glitching and sharing unfairly. However disco obviously didn't put respawn on the item
Author:  Nekhy [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 16:59 PM ]
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It's called "giving an involuntary donation to the temple of Waukeen".
Author:  Yossarin [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 17:05 PM ]
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Not too big, not too small, 100% real.
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 17:33 PM ]
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Well, eh...

Can we have the Respawn thingy back then? Please? :D
Author:  Blink [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 19:19 PM ]
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Scimiter wrote:
Though is a quick way to sell if you don't want to run over to the merchant building and not have the 5000 sell price cap the NPC in the temple gives you.


Spiderbags, bags of holding, bags bags bags.

Then you'll only have to sell loot every once in a while.
Author:  555444333 [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 19:21 PM ]
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:x DEATH TO THE CHEST!
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 19:31 PM ]
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noooo...

Fix it, we want it!
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 19:31 PM ]
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noooo...

Fix it, we want it!
Author:  Dramatic_Prince [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 20:58 PM ]
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Interesting question really. I've been here over a year and never did figure out how it worked. How about a tutorial?
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 21:01 PM ]
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Btw

At what intrest rate does the chest sell at?

0% Profit, or does it rip you off a little?
Author:  555444333 [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 21:05 PM ]
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I still am amazed people use it. It's so meh!
Author:  Maias227 [ Wed, Nov 11 2009, 21:07 PM ]
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I'd never used that thing, always just thought it was some fancy chest for donations. Oh well you get smarter every day.
Author:  Bobo_Underhill [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 8:29 AM ]
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I like the chest to some degree. It's an interesting diversion if you want an even split without switching to a calculator.

Just dump your loot in, close it and the worth of the items is instantly divvy'd up among party members. I'm not sure what the sell rate is, though. Didn't it used to be one of those statues of the guy with the flaming head and hands? Or am I thinking of something else?
Author:  TormakSaber [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 8:46 AM ]
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Relic of Arelith's days. The sell profit is terrible which is why no one sues it and everyone ABCs. No worries about your "Master Looter" running off on you.

It used to be "Rauth", in the Temple of Torm, a man who was a con artist and a gambler, and punished by Tyr and Torm to evenly divide and spread wealth equally for all eternity.
Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 8:49 AM ]
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Summed up even shorter from Tormaks post.

Use Chest = Get less gold.

Possiably the most useless item on Amia.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 8:51 AM ]
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It was genuinely useful in Ye Olde Days. No longer.
Author:  jameslocke [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 9:10 AM ]
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Yossarin wrote:
Not too big, not too small, 100% real.


Haha! Tits.
Author:  Spyonline8000 [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 9:16 AM ]
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On that note, I remember the first time I saw that thing I was surprised that nobody slapped me for touching Waukeen's chest...
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 14:18 PM ]
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But i dont get it. Its there, The Script exists, and i would honestly want another way to share the loot rather than spamming

A B G T X X A B G T X X

Nonstop in the bloody partychatt.
So for the sake of better RP, and less PartyChattSpam

Maybe the chest could be 'fixed' and 'used' again.
Author:  Charles1810 [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 17:28 PM ]
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or a special widget that will when used you can create a flow chart of whos loot next.

Example: Person A uses it on A then uses it on person B. Loot drops battle message person A loot drop battle message person B ect....
Author:  TormakSaber [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 21:47 PM ]
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So don't spam it and learn to alphabetize mentally? Seems silly to make a complicated scripting solution when the answer is "don't type in party".
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 21:56 PM ]
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Uuh. I just want another option to ABC. No new additions...Just a working chest
Author:  Sakkran [ Thu, Nov 12 2009, 22:03 PM ]
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Okay- You take a 'need over greed' principle. ICly, a person can ask: "Hey, a longsword! Any of you guys want this? If not, we can just hawk it off on Hil'rash" or whatever.

Thirty-seven pieces of unclaimed gear later, you go to the merchant. Add up the gold earned by selling them, using the handy-dandy Windows calculator, and divide it by the number of people in your party. Dole out GP accordingly, rounding when necessary.

Nonexistant problem. Simple solution.
Author:  Janna Ogder [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 15:00 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
I didn't know until; just now what it did, and none that i asked knew either.

All I know is that I put 100,000 gold into it and it was gone. Screw you, waukeen!
Author:  DustSpray101 [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 15:17 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
Waukeen thanks you for your patronage and invites you to come again. Please remember Waukeen is a business woman... She always gets her cut.
Author:  MoshingChris [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 15:28 PM ]
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Master looting or PWNdBAD

I don't see the need for the box to be fixed.
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 15:35 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
Old thread is ooooold... Damn Necromancer.

I think it should be fixed. Could perhaps stop people from shouting stuff in the party chat and ruining immersion.

AAAA BBB CCCC DDD EEEE FFFF


Edit - Lol. I already made this argument before! Deja vu!
Author:  Dramatic_Prince [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 15:47 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
MoshingChris wrote:
Master looting

Best way.
Author:  Athyonn Ursidae [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 16:08 PM ]
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Master looting saves time, aggrovation and hastle. Trouble is that most people dont trust other people with their money. IC'ly thats fine, but when it spills over to OOC, then it can get unpleasant for all concerned.

My preferance is always Masterloot, but if someone in the party does not like it then we go ABC. Seems easiest way these days.
Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 16:25 PM ]
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ABC...Waukeen Idol is useless, or maybe that's just a habit of thought.
Author:  Mobile_Svensk [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 16:38 PM ]
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Yes. Its' worthless.
That's why we should fix fix fix!
Author:  hendrack [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 17:12 PM ]
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Recently I started the habit of saying "Split the money among yourself and exclude me from abc loot, I'll grind myself for money when I need", then I disable party chat.
Author:  Sakkran [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 17:14 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
Isn't broken; Don't fix.

The chest does a good job of maintaining the Waukeenar tradition of distribution of wealth.
Author:  Dark Immolation [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 20:23 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
Sakkran wrote:
Isn't broken; Don't fix.

The chest does a good job of maintaining the Waukeenar tradition of distribution of wealth.


Waukeen's a socialist???

trollface.jpg
Author:  Dwagin [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 20:43 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
Waukeen is much more about Epic coinage, than Epic cleavage. Nothing says "I'm the Queen" like your head on a million dollar gold coin. Waukeen is about hard work for what you got man. Its not about being idle!
Author:  Silent2001 [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 20:54 PM ]
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That picture makes me sad. Why is the Queen putting her head on a dollar coin? STERLING, TRAITOR!
Author:  Grymia [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 20:56 PM ]
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Pretty sure that's a Canadian Minted Coin.
Author:  Murex [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 21:19 PM ]
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The ABC system isn't really fair. It's a fact that the beginning of the Alphabet gets more loot in the long run. It would be nice if every loot that drops is scripted so it calls out who gets it, as long as the script starts from a random letter in the alpahbet and goes from there.

The 'it's fine as it is now' argument doesn't hold up. It probably isn't a priority, so the 'not a priority' argument can be used instead. If it's not a priority, then there is no point in letting this thread continue.
Author:  Wolfking6116 [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 21:39 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
Murex wrote:
It's a fact that the beginning of the Alphabet gets more loot in the long run.



...What?
Author:  Logicality [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 21:47 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
As long as loot is actually obtained, it's impossible, under the ABC system, for someone whose name is further down in the alphabet than another's to get more loot than their early-lettered party-members.

However, this shouldn't be a huge problem, as those in the beginning of the alphabet only have the chance to get one more piece of loot than those closer to the end, as long as the system is being adhered to.

I prefer need or greed, or PWNdBAD, or really anything that can be RP'd. The ABC system seems rather... tacky.
Author:  Wolfking6116 [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 21:54 PM ]
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What is this Pwndbad system? I wish to know of it.
Author:  Yurell [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 22:07 PM ]
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I usually do need before greed, and then everything else gets sold and divided by the person with highest appraise.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 22:11 PM ]
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How people handle their loot is their own way and has no real rhyme or reason on a "server rules" level. I'm not even sure why the chest was put in to begin with, there's no IC reason for it working the way it would and two, no one uses it because it gives base value, not appriase and merchant modified value, so you make a pittance from it.

... and if people are ABC looting right, everyone gets the same loot.
Author:  Gunz [ Wed, Nov 17 2010, 23:02 PM ]
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I can't remember the last time I actually used that thing to split loot wealth. I'm surprised anyone still uses that old thing!

Also:

You said Waukeen's chest... ::laughs like Butthead::
Author:  ainjyll [ Thu, Nov 18 2010, 0:10 AM ]
Post subject:  Re: Waukeen's Chest
Wolfking6116 wrote:
What is this Pwndbad system? I wish to know of it.


Pick What's Needed Don't Be A Douche or a few other subtle variations along that theme, which works great at higher levels, but can be a bit confusing at the lower levels where just about everyone is desperate for some coinage to get even the most basic of gear.

Master looting is a great system, too. If everybody in the party knows each other and can trust that the master looter isn't gonna go douche on people and bounce out.

I'm a big fan of ABC's and have been known to spam the party chat with the first letters of people's character's names. However, I prefer to stop take a break and have my character say something about how the loot will be distributed. Doesn't break immersion and gives a good chance to RP a touch between spawns.

I'd say get rid of the chest or if it's kept do so for sentimentality's sake.
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