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Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 4:18 AM ]
Post subject:  NWN locks up my computer - help please

hi guys and gals, i took a couple of months off and during that time i got a new video card(new for me that is lol). Now NWN randomly freezes, and worst it locks up my computer, my thoughts on this were that the graphic card is crashing, so i of course updated it just to make sure. yet the problem still is happening. any ideas? i was thinking a re-install might be a good idea

here are my computers stats

Windows Xp
AMD Athlon 64 processor
3200+
2.2GHz, 1.50 GB of RAM
Gforce 6600 GT

also i have it running a dual monitor set up, idk if thats an issue or not

Author:  Yurell [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 4:23 AM ]
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I don't know how to fix it, but I'm pretty sure it's not the video card, as I had that one on my computer running XP and it had no problems with NWN.

Author:  TormakSaber [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 5:28 AM ]
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Shiny Water

Author:  Dwagin [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 6:23 AM ]
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I assume you're running windows xp?

Go to www.nvidia.com and download the requisite driver for your card.

Then download: http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/ and install it.

Then download www.ccleaner.com and install it.

Uninstall your drivers for your video card from windows control panel.

If it asks to restart, don't.

Use driver sweeper to remove graphics drivers from your system.

Run CCleaner and run its registry cleaner and have it fix the registry, then

Restart.

Reinstall your already downloaded nvidia drivers.

Restart.

Try playing nwn again see if it fixes your issues.

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 8:09 AM ]
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tomak, shiney waters always off for me, so thats not it. i tend to run everything as low as i can cause lag kills, lol, thx tho

dwagin, i'm in the process of doing what you said, what are you thinking it is, conflicting drivers from my other card?

Author:  Torzeng [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 8:50 AM ]
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I'd say "run as administrator" although I doubt it would even start without that.

My next thought is Firewalls. As I've had past experience with versions that would block a program after it ran for a while, not right away, who knows why.

Also going to just ask if you HAK is the most recent?

Author:  Dwagin [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 9:30 AM ]
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Stealth_Vicious wrote:
dwagin, i'm in the process of doing what you said, what are you thinking it is, conflicting drivers from my other card?


Mhmm.

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 9:40 AM ]
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Torzeng wrote:
I'd say "run as administrator" although I doubt it would even start without that.

My next thought is Firewalls. As I've had past experience with versions that would block a program after it ran for a while, not right away, who knows why.

Also going to just ask if you HAK is the most recent?


i don't think its firewalls, i haven't change them since way before i got my new video card, also pre-haks, i notice nwn crashed (after testing out what the new card could do), but i thought it was a fluke, then recently i started playing again, and it happen randomly, but often. still if what dwagin suggested doesn't work i'll try both

still running CCleaner, its taking forever lol

Author:  Dev Disco [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 10:14 AM ]
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Is it just Amia or did you try singleplayer / other server as well?

Critical rebuild for 1,69 may help as well, or this: http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=te ... ail&id=109

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 10:26 AM ]
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just finished and tested dwagins suggestions and it still froze up my computer, i'm going to check if any new haks updates have happened in the last week and then try disco suggestions

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 11:28 AM ]
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played through a single player quest, and been playing on an arena server for 30 minutes, no crashing

could the new haks and the overides i run be creating issue?

though i only have the tree overide, and some creature overides, plus amia's basic

Author:  Dev Disco [ Mon, Mar 08 2010, 11:38 AM ]
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Try this first:

* rename your override folder to backupoverride or whatever.
* do the critical rebuild from the bioware forum
* download and install the hak again (you never know)
* download and install hands and heads

Try again

Author:  Dev Disco [ Tue, Mar 09 2010, 9:56 AM ]
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Quote:
196.75 Alert!
NVIDIA is aware that some customers have reported fan speed issues after installing 196.75 drivers from NVIDIA's website. These drivers have been removed from NVIDIA's website due to these customer reports. We have also asked all partners to remove this driver. We recommend that all customers immediately discontinue the use of 196.75 drivers and roll back to their previous driver. Driver roll back help can be found here. For those that have experienced fan speed issues with 196.75 drivers, NVIDIA has setup this feedback site


Pay attention!

Author:  Dwagin [ Tue, Mar 09 2010, 10:09 AM ]
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Oof.. if the fans arent working right that could be it overheating.

If you're using those, install older ones, asap.

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 8:13 AM ]
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i am using 196.21 nvidia drivers so i don't think thats it

Author:  Dev Disco [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 8:46 AM ]
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Tried my other suggestion?

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 9:04 AM ]
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yes i did, just tested, then froze up, just had a reboot

it feels like a video issue tho, the way it locks up my entire computer and freezes the game screen, the audio goes bonkers a bit to

-edit-

also just open my computer up, the fan on the video card is working fine, felt i had to check just in case

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 10:00 AM ]
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i think i figure it out, direct x needed updating, had rolled it back a couple months ago because of a morrowind bug i was having, it hit me when looking in the bioware forums. tested it and so far no crashes

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 11:12 AM ]
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ok i was wrong, direct x wasn't it, just got some free time to play today and it froze up about 5 to 10 minutes into playing the same way. guess it just wanted to give me false hope lol.

so far i've done

-turn down graphic's to minimum
-deleted all old video drivers
-updated video card (not to the bad update tho)
-crit rebuild
-took out my overrides
-re-downloaded haks and overrides for Amia
-updated direct x drivers

Author:  Dwagin [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 11:30 AM ]
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Open windows explorer by hitting the windows key + E at the same time.

Right click your hard drive, click properties. Click tool tab.
Check the Drive for errors. Make sure the box for Automatically fix file errors is checked.

Restart. Let it do its thing.

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 12:00 PM ]
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ok will do dwagin

on a side note, played single player for the last 30 minutes or so with no issues, weird

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 12:28 PM ]
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did the check, still crashed

Author:  Herra Tutteri [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 12:38 PM ]
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If nothing else works, try a sledge hammer.

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 12:55 PM ]
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Herra Tutteri wrote:
If nothing else works, try a sledge hammer.


Computer works completely fine except for the nwn problem

Author:  Herra Tutteri [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 15:44 PM ]
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Stealth_Vicious wrote:
Herra Tutteri wrote:
If nothing else works, try a sledge hammer.


Computer works completely fine except for the nwn problem


Aim for the discs.

Author:  hendrack [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 15:51 PM ]
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Disable sound in the .ini files and try again. A lot of NWN crashes are related to sound drivers.

Author:  What the Moon Brings [ Sun, Mar 14 2010, 23:21 PM ]
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Are you sure it's just Neverwinter Nights? Sounds a lot like your computer is overheating.

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 20:31 PM ]
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hendrack wrote:
Disable sound in the .ini files and try again. A lot of NWN crashes are related to sound drivers.


tried that, it still crashed

What the Moon Brings wrote:
Are you sure it's just Neverwinter Nights? Sounds a lot like your computer is overheating.


nothing else crashes on my computer, no other game, been trying, and i got 2 fans inside my computer and an additional one on the video card, so i don't think its an overheating problem

on a side note i am able to get it to cash in single player as well, it really doesn't like me creating new characters it seems

i'm going to reinstall and see what happens

Author:  Yurell [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 20:37 PM ]
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New characters? Does it crash when you get to the portrait selection?

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 20:49 PM ]
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not specifically no, it crashed while i was browsing them, then again after i was picking feats, twice

Author:  Yurell [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 20:53 PM ]
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Do you have many portraits? NWN crashes whenever I make a new character because I have 35k portraits.

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 21:05 PM ]
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no, just basic

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 23:53 PM ]
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hendrack wrote:
Disable sound in the .ini files and try again. A lot of NWN crashes are related to sound drivers.


i disable my sound like you said, but i think it might still be the sound card after all, found this post on biowares forums

http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic ... um=49&sp=0

Downloading updates now (tho its taking its sweet time) and testing asap, here's hoping

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Wed, Mar 17 2010, 3:37 AM ]
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that didn't work, i got my hopes up on that one lol

Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Wed, Mar 17 2010, 9:08 AM ]
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If I may ask. Is your dynamic lights slider turned right up? If so, it may decrease numerous crashes if you turn it right down so they are off. I had this issue till I turned it down. Then I only crashed every now and then, over normal NWN fidgetyness.

Apperently there is a Memory Leak in NWN. A very small one that isn't notice for a very long time, but it is there with certain features turned right up. High end computers probably won't even notice it.

Author:  Stealth_Vicious [ Wed, Mar 17 2010, 9:24 AM ]
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it's not all the way up, just in middle

Author:  What the Moon Brings [ Wed, Mar 17 2010, 19:58 PM ]
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Try disconnecting your second monitor and restarting the computer with only one monitor connected.

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