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Maias227
 
PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 16:42 PM 

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Reposting this here in case some missed some of the other posts. Also note the changed dc rebuild costs.

Due to the time absorbent nature of Free Rebuilds, it has become the DM team's position that they shall be discontinued to free up time for more important NPC interactions, plots, giving of DC's and such. Self-rebuilds and DC rebuilds shall continue to be unlimited upon proper request and DM approval. In addition to this we are also introducing a price change for the DC rebuild so they simply cost 0.5 dcs per level, both DC and self rebuilds still require roleplay backing.

A few extra notes:

- Free rebuilds already requested as of the time of this post will be the last set of them

- After the hak update, Purple Dragon Knights/Harper Scouts will still be required to rebuild, too, and it is done so without cost.

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Adjusted the thread title to be more direct.


 
      
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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 16:54 PM 

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Maias227 wrote:
In addition to this we are also introducing a price change for the DC rebuild so they simply cost 0.5 dcs per level, both DC and self rebuilds still require roleplay backing.


And there was much rejoicing! This is very pleasing, aesthetically.

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 17:25 PM 

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good that means more self-rebuilds so they will have a reason to go to low level zones like Caraigh on Boss-mia.

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 17:37 PM 

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Haha, Maias. You're so funny. It isn't even April.

(This is what I get for taking the time to make sure my rebuild is actually what I want and what makes sense. :<
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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 18:52 PM 

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Good thing all my planned rebuilds are selfers :3

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 19:09 PM 

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Well it does say "General Discussion" so...

Would there be any consideration among the Staff to allow those of us who still have a Free Rebuild "in the bank" so-to-speak, to use it up before this new rule takes effect?

I really like the idea of no more free rebuilds, but I've also personally been "saving" mine since I started here, until I really needed it. But I could still definitely make good use of it now, if I'm going to lose it anyway (if that makes sense).

Thoughts from the staff?


 
      
Yossarin
 
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Nah. Bookkeeping would be too much work.


 
      
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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 19:16 PM 

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Yossarin wrote:
Nah. Bookkeeping would be too much work.

Could you expand on that a bit please Yoss?


 
      
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Figuring out who does and doesn't and doing them all. Way too much work. So much easier to just say no. Like we should have before ever offering them in the first place.


 
      
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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 19:21 PM 

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Yossarin wrote:
Figuring out who does and doesn't and doing them all. Way too much work. So much easier to just say no. Like we should have before ever offering them in the first place.

Ah, fair enough. I had just assumed you kept a list somewhere updated with who had already used theirs and at what point in the year. If that's not the case, then I can definitely see how that would be a giant pain in the arse. Thanks for explaining.


 
      
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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 20:21 PM 

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Drat. My recent DC rebuild cost three more than it would have if I'd waited a couple weeks! :lol:

I can't say I can blame anyone for this decision. There were a -ton- of rebuild requests, and I'm sure the DMs would love the break (and by the same token so would players since it means more time with DMs doing other things!).

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 20:47 PM 

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 21:44 PM 

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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 22:03 PM 

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I'm glad the DM team dropped the Free Rebuilds. I never understood how you guys could handle them, so many as they were, and still manage to do other things.

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I never understood how you guys could handle them, so many as they were

It was coped with differently. As I understand it, Yoss has already murdered the penguins seen in Happy Feet.

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DustSpray101 wrote:
Sylfwe wrote:
I never understood how you guys could handle them, so many as they were

It was coped with differently. As I understand it, Yoss has already murdered the penguins seen in Happy Feet.


I'm picturing Cruise missiles being involved somehow.

But.. seriously, yeah.. I admit the Free Rebuilds were nice, but there was so many requests... I guess the Tylenol in the DMoffice is lacking.


 
      
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PostPosted: Thu, Sep 15 2011, 23:55 PM 

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Not to mention much of the hassle I've seen with some of the requested ones >_<

Oh yeah, and I definitely like this, Would have been nice to knock out another freebie first, but it's not a big deal. The only possible changes in any of my characters would require a selfer anyways XD

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March of the Penguins, actually. I love the Penguins from Happy Feet, even Mumble.

Fucking manatees gonna be next I swear.


 
      
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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 16 2011, 0:02 AM 

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Excellent.

I can loan you a fleet of narwhals if you like. Underwater assault!

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Yes! <3 the DMs


 
      
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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 16 2011, 12:06 PM 

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Someone trout whoever posted that "Power of Procrastination" thread in OT! I've been meaning to do one for....months! But never bothered. Couldn't be arsed. Now Johari will never have Devastating Critical:Spear. :(


 
      
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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 16 2011, 16:56 PM 

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Sure she will, just fork out some DCS.

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PostPosted: Fri, Sep 16 2011, 17:11 PM 

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Or do a selfer :3

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Hahaha. I'm so happy to see that there's not very much complaining. Go Amia!!!


 
      
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On the flip side, only a handful of people have replied XD

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Naivatkal wrote:
On the flip side, only a handful of people have replied XD


Not much can be argued.

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Big one from me. Thank you guys for all you've done though. It takes a lot of patience.

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Yossarin wrote:
March of the Penguins, actually. I love the Penguins from Happy Feet, even Mumble.

[removed] manatees gonna be next I swear.


I will drive down to the gulf coast and and throw down if you touch my fatty mongoloid sea angels.

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Lally wrote:
Yossarin wrote:
March of the Penguins, actually. I love the Penguins from Happy Feet, even Mumble.

[removed] manatees gonna be next I swear.


I will drive down to the gulf coast and and throw down if you touch my fatty mongoloid sea angels.





Penguin rule! *sends in the crazy bunch*
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PostPosted: Sat, Sep 17 2011, 8:52 AM 

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I never used a free rebuild, yay me!

Largely because I always felt the idea of them was slightly... I dont know, dirty or to easy *shrugs*.

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I guess this is a good thing. I was saving mine and working on some RP that would make it a Free Rebuild effectively, heh, but oh well.

Cheers.

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PostPosted: Sat, Sep 17 2011, 22:56 PM 

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Good news! More time for actual DM-ing!


 
      
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+1 Sounds good, even though I have been saving up mine for Eroki's mid life crisis. More time with DM's in game sounds like a much better tradeoff...


 
      
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Uh-Oh...I have been eligible for a free rebuild since May, but I haven't been able to request one because I've been gone since May and just got back to playing...could I use mine one last time please?

*If a DM can answer or PM me that would be great

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If you read the thread, you'll find your answer.

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Damn... to think I never took them up for their offer when I had the chance.

Oh well.

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The_Tanman wrote:
Uh-Oh...I have been eligible for a free rebuild since May, but I haven't been able to request one because I've been gone since May and just got back to playing...could I use mine one last time please?

*If a DM can answer or PM me that would be great


Sorry no exceptions, only rebuilds requested before the end date are considered.

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Maias227 wrote:
Sorry no exceptions, only rebuilds requested before the end date are considered.


Figured I would get an answer like this...can never catch a break around here.

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PostPosted: Sun, Sep 18 2011, 16:00 PM 

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Good on you guys. I'll admit having used one for Daniel but now I've learned alot about building so I hope I'll not need another.

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Damn, never had a free rebuild.... ohwell, backs up my point of rping with new characters :)

EDIT:- Am I correct in assuming folks that want the monkey grip widget will need to self rebuild? If so this is better anyway. Will reflect training with the new weapon better :D

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No. Folks that want Monkey-Grip will not need a self-rebuild. If they are using a large weapon, which they should if they want Monkey-Grip, then they will not need a self-rebuild.

You only get monkey grip if you are using a large 2 handed weapon. Its simply that people used to double up the MG request with a Free-Rebuild request. Which were being declined over the last 3 months anyway.

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Pretty disappointing. Every time I've tried to organize a rebuild for my character, I've been told by a DM that they are too busy. Now I see I have missed my chance entirely. Like many folks I was waiting for when I really needed it.

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If you already made a request for it, it'll still be considered valid. If you didn't, then it doesn't matter whether or not the DM was busy, they couldn't have done it if you hadn't made a request yet.

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Now for dropping rebuilds altogether and we really got a proper RP server. :twisted:

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Not for nothing, King The Great Chicken Will Destroy You!, but some rebuilds -are- RP. Sometimes people do change. Saying that's impossible is just as bad, imo.

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Agreed. Not for nothing it's suggested taking the Myers-Briggs test about every five years. The events of life can indeed drastically change a person in just so short a time. As a side note I'm currently INTJ whereas I use to be INFJ when I last tested six and a half years ago ;)

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