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Author:  SvartLotus [ Wed, Nov 21 2012, 19:38 PM ]
Post subject:  Question: Faith without diety system?

Evening everyone, have some question about faith. I found a canon diety that i want my character to follow, but the diety is not in amias diety system. So the questions are:

1. Can i rp that i follow a diety even if its not in the system (as a pure wizard, no cleric/pally levels)?
2. Is it possible to get a diety in to the system without causing the devs hours of work?

I had hoped to later get the diety in to the game, but dont want to cause devs, DMs or players any problem, so i thought it would be best to ask before i do anything. Havent seen a thread about this yet, but has anyone done this before?

Author:  Silent2001 [ Wed, Nov 21 2012, 19:40 PM ]
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It depends on the deity and whether or not it is a part of our cosmology. No, it isn't hard to get a deity implemented into the system but it does require roleplay. Non-divine classes can follow non-system deities fine, but I'm not too sure about divine classes.

Author:  SvartLotus [ Wed, Nov 21 2012, 19:44 PM ]
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Thank you for the quick answer.
The diety in question is "Pale Night".

EDIT: She is on the amia wiki, so i guess she is part of the canon :)

Author:  IronAngel [ Wed, Nov 21 2012, 20:38 PM ]
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It's canon if and only if it's from a book or a web article with the Forgotten Realms and WotC/TSR logo on it.

Amia Wiki is player mainted, full of errors, and not canon. The article in question doesn't cite its sources.

She's not a goddess anyhow, according to that wiki entry. She's a demon. But yes, you can worship demons. I suggest finding the original source and determining whether it's an FR product or not. My guess she's from one of the fiend books (Fiendish Codex I and II or something?) which aren't FR-specific but probably applicable insofar as they don't contradict specific FR lore. Demon lords are dime in a dozen so my completely uneducated guess would be that one from a core D&D product would exist.

Author:  Silent2001 [ Wed, Nov 21 2012, 20:40 PM ]
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Pale Night can be worshipped. And yes she's part of our cosmology.

Author:  Pony [ Wed, Nov 21 2012, 21:27 PM ]
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Fiendish Codex II has her.

Author:  Bini [ Wed, Nov 21 2012, 22:19 PM ]
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Honeydew Snugglepoof wrote:
Fiendish Codex I has her.


Fixed that for you. Fiendish Codex II is about Baator.

Author:  mirvala- [ Wed, Nov 21 2012, 22:23 PM ]
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The problem would be there if a divine caster worshipped a diety considered a part of our cosmology but not listed in the diety domain choices. Clerics of uncategorized dieties wouldn't be able to cast.

Author:  Silent2001 [ Thu, Nov 22 2012, 0:56 AM ]
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I would say worship a deity with the same domains as Pale Night, but don't take me at my word just yet. Wait for a few more DMs to pitch in.

Author:  ainjyll [ Tue, Nov 27 2012, 3:33 AM ]
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Silent2001 wrote:
I would say worship a deity with the same domains as Pale Night, but don't take me at my word just yet. Wait for a few more DMs to pitch in.


This, pretty much. I would say that if you wanted to follow a deity not supported by our current system, post a quick request and we DM's will let you know how that deity's portfolio translates to Amia. Then just find a god/goddess that fits that portfolio in so much as domains go and poof.... you're good to go.

Author:  Bini [ Tue, Nov 27 2012, 3:37 AM ]
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Why worship a white exhibitionist milf when you can worship Graz'zt?! :P

Author:  Pony [ Tue, Nov 27 2012, 7:24 AM ]
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Bini wrote:
Honeydew Snugglepoof wrote:
Fiendish Codex I has her.


Fixed that for you. Fiendish Codex II is about Baator.


My bad. You are right. For some reason I always place demons second to devils. <.<

Author:  Bini [ Tue, Nov 27 2012, 7:38 AM ]
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They are. Demons are just newbs.

Author:  Silkelock [ Tue, Nov 27 2012, 11:01 AM ]
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Bini wrote:
Why worship a white exhibitionist milf when you can worship Graz'zt?! :P



Knowing Svartlotus I am not all that surprised. Dissapointed yes, surprised no ;)

Author:  Strawberry Stallion [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 17:52 PM ]
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Would it be hijacking the topic if I asked if it's able to get followers to follow a PC and with enough support gain demi-god-hood?

Author:  PaladinOfSune [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 19:26 PM ]
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I recommend you look into how divine ranks work a bit more.

Besides that, I think it should be obvious enough we're not going to let people play demigod characters.

Author:  Strawberry Stallion [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 20:16 PM ]
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I didn't imagine you would, I just recall someone mentioning that was one way to gain some level of it and I wanted a lil' bit of clarification.

Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 20:59 PM ]
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You also need AO's direct permission and some sort of portfolio to take over that isn't already proscribed to another deity. Thereotically it is possible with 'a few hundred to a few thousand' worshippers, along with the above.

Just not on Amia.

Author:  Cerpin Taxt [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 21:35 PM ]
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Dreams crushed, bro.

Author:  IronAngel [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 22:19 PM ]
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I hear the portfolio of Dramatic Convention has a vacancy...

Author:  Strawberry Stallion [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 22:31 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote:
You also need AO's direct permission and some sort of portfolio to take over that isn't already proscribed to another deity. Thereotically it is possible with 'a few hundred to a few thousand' worshippers, along with the above.

Just not on Amia.

Cheers for the clarification, knew it wasn't entirely farce, was just curious for curiousity sake.

Author:  Silent2001 [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 22:45 PM ]
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You're welcome to try! It could be interesting to see a bunch of PC's extolling some bizzare godly character.

Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 23:02 PM ]
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IronAngel wrote:
I hear the portfolio of Dramatic Convention has a vacancy...


Ugh.

Author:  Strawberry Stallion [ Sat, Dec 01 2012, 23:17 PM ]
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Silent2001 wrote:
You're welcome to try! It could be interesting to see a bunch of PC's extolling some bizzare godly character.

Oh goody!

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