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Author:  Samuel Drake [ Tue, Feb 11 2014, 12:29 PM ]
Post subject:  Area of effect spells (AOES) question

It seems that AOES such as fireball don't affect party members but the caster here on Amia? My "helper" insisted on playing a wizard and has been doing pretty good so far (insists on getting into melee though - bad).

Anyway! She threw a fireball at some wererats yesterday, no problem! Wait, your character is dead! The log says "Character kills character." "Character is dead" I laughed but wondered about that.

Somebody playing "Gregory" helped her back up while I was frantically porting to town (but couldn't port back for some reason eh.. another thread?) for scrolls.

Author:  Silkelock [ Tue, Feb 11 2014, 12:39 PM ]
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Should hit all. Maybe those who did not get hit either reflex saved or spell resisted it.

Author:  Kamina [ Tue, Feb 11 2014, 12:43 PM ]
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They don't affect party members.

Also you should put these questions in the general questions thread.

Author:  Gravemaskin [ Tue, Feb 11 2014, 13:21 PM ]
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Correction, dont hit other players or their summons (hellball exempt). The caster and his or her summons can be hit, including dominated monsters. Which is always fun for the squishy char next to it.

I believe it was made this way to stop people trolling their party members.

Author:  mirvala- [ Tue, Feb 11 2014, 13:37 PM ]
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http://amiaworld.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66304

Author:  Samuel Drake [ Tue, Feb 11 2014, 13:55 PM ]
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Thanks for the link.

Author:  Strawberry Stallion [ Tue, Feb 11 2014, 17:42 PM ]
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To avoid trolling party members is the sole reason? :o

Author:  Samuel Drake [ Tue, Feb 11 2014, 21:39 PM ]
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Gravemaskin wrote:
I believe it was made this way to stop people trolling their party members.


Please forgive my newness - what does that mean? Would you give an example? Sorry.

Author:  Laiquendi Ohtar [ Wed, Feb 12 2014, 13:39 PM ]
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No need to be sorry - trolling is a process of being a... problem, to others, for fun.

Example:
*casts fireball killing all party members by "missing"*
- Sorry! *laughs*

Author:  Samuel Drake [ Wed, Feb 12 2014, 15:01 PM ]
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I'm attempting to think of an example of "trolling a party member" where an AOES would be necessary to damage the spell caster?

On another angle - I'm thinking that if you wanted to go for total "realism" (as far as a fantasy game goes) - all AOES would affect everyone in the radius. Fireball for example would affect monsters, party members - anyone caught in the radius. Just like PnP.

Author:  mirvala- [ Wed, Feb 12 2014, 15:30 PM ]
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Yes, but then it would be so very frowned upon no one would bother going blaster mage in PvE. It's not a matter of avoiding realism, but to avoid griefing and blaster-casters being unplayable due to friendly casualties.

Author:  Kamina [ Wed, Feb 12 2014, 15:38 PM ]
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mirvala- wrote:
no one would bother going blaster mage in PvE.

As opposed to all the blaster mages who currently PvE? :p

Offensive mages, as in none-spellswords/summoners, are rare as hell enough as it is. No need to punish them any more.

Author:  mirvala- [ Wed, Feb 12 2014, 15:48 PM ]
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I play blaster-casters.

I also play buffers, crowd-controllers and all other various kinds of arcanists. :3

Author:  Very_Svensk [ Wed, Feb 12 2014, 16:18 PM ]
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mirvala- wrote:
I play blaster-casters.

I also play buffers, crowd-controllers and all other various kinds of arcanists. :3


So you play all casters? :mrgreen:

Author:  mirvala- [ Wed, Feb 12 2014, 16:25 PM ]
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Yes!

It was more to illustrate a point of variety. :D

Author:  Laiquendi Ohtar [ Wed, Feb 12 2014, 16:51 PM ]
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Muspelkvist wrote:
mirvala- wrote:
I play blaster-casters.

I also play buffers, crowd-controllers and all other various kinds of arcanists. :3


So you play all casters? :mrgreen:

Well it pretty much depends on what spells you prepare (wizard) or learn/use (sorcerer).
Of course not every build works well with every type of spells, but it does not disallow you to cast them :P

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