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Divine Mythal / Damage Resistance 5/-
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Author:  Kenneth [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 4:52 AM ]
Post subject:  Divine Mythal / Damage Resistance 5/-
Anyone know for sure if the Damage Resistance 5/- you can apply to an object using a Divine Mythal stacks with Barbarian Damage Reduction? The wiki's and other information out there seem to indicate they do stack, but I just wanted to make sure.
Author:  Uberuce [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 6:33 AM ]
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If it's 5/- Slashing or Bludgeoning or Piercing then it will stack. Used to run around in my Barb24 dude getting 10/- all the time, thanks to Barb23's 5/- and a combination of Enkidu's Plate and something that gave 5/- Blunt.
Author:  Kenneth [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 6:41 AM ]
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I've got no idea. I would assume it's all physical damage.
Author:  Casvenx [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 7:34 AM ]
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It should; to mean that if it doesn't its a bug. Though barb DR doesn't seem as reliable as item DR (it doesn't seem to fire all the time).
Author:  Kamina [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 8:20 AM ]
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Though I did not use mine for crafting, when I went about asking which ones stacked, I was told that this one would.

I would still wait for an official DM/someone who has used it for that to comment, mind!
Author:  The1Kobra [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 11:00 AM ]
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It will stack with damage reduction (5/- slashing or the like), but not with damage soak. (AKA +3 soak 10, stoneskin, etc)
Author:  Uberuce [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 12:03 PM ]
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Kenneth wrote:
I've got no idea. I would assume it's all physical damage.
Did you mean 'all of it is physical damage' or 'it is all of the physical damages' because the latter isn't an item property; best as I know you have to specify the type.
Author:  Kenneth [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 14:08 PM ]
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I just realized this. I thought it was some sort of straight damage reduction, but upon looking at it, it's only for one particular type (3 physical, or one of the 6 elemental.) Which actually kind of sucks, considering it's one power, and takes one stone to do any one of those.
Author:  Kamina [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 16:40 PM ]
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If you want my opinion when it comes to Divine Mythals, until the MCS has its rework (which has been mentioned a few times it's in the process of) the only good thing they bring is the DC-20 OnHit is basically every single OnHit power there is. While you'd be relying on 1s most of the time, it's useful in making a unique signature weapon. Otherwise, either save for IC implementation, sell or keep a hold of it for the rework.
Author:  Aiseth [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 17:56 PM ]
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While we're on DR, I dunno if this ever got addressed but Perfect Mythals give higher DR bonuses than Flawless Mythals. Is this intended?
Author:  Kamina [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 17:58 PM ]
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I believe that's due to, property wise not market wise, Perfect are bigger, heavier and more powerful than Flawless, though Flawless are technically more rare.
Author:  Aiseth [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 18:03 PM ]
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Ok! Just wanna be sure on that. In my minds eye I considered flawless to be more powerful, but perfect can be more powerful in my mind's eye too. I got great vision coverage...in my mind.

//:(
Author:  Kamina [ Mon, Jun 02 2014, 18:08 PM ]
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Yeah, I'd only disagree that perfect are sought after by (pseudo)/casters for those spell slots, but it's due to:

Minor/Lesser/Intermediate/Greater/Flawless/Perfect/Divine

Weighing

0.5/5.5/10.5/15.5/30.5/50.5/100.5 respectively.
Author:  Kenneth [ Tue, Jun 03 2014, 13:31 PM ]
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Yeah, the on-hit powers are pretty neat in their variety, and the DC (being 20) isn't horrible, even though you're still basically just hoping for a 1. But the scarcity of available slots means you're gimping your weapon in some way just for that slim chance, and overall I don't think it ends up being anywhere near worth it. I guess I'll just hold onto it. Maybe put it on a big chain and wear it around my neck as some nice bling.
Author:  kalcibone [ Tue, Jun 03 2014, 13:38 PM ]
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personally i think they should make it so it goes like this:
Greater (Dc 14, weak on hits such as silence or bleed), Flawless(dc 18's, stuff like blindness and doom effects) , Perfect(Dc 20's), Divine(Dc 25 or something as divines are INCREDIBLY rare and usally only given by Dm's.)

or maybe you could just have say... A dm help make an item with an increased DC.
Author:  Kamina [ Tue, Jun 03 2014, 15:51 PM ]
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kalcibone wrote:
and usally only given by Dm's.)

They are /only/ able to be obtained via DMs, in terms of their origins.
Author:  MisterLich [ Tue, Jun 03 2014, 20:10 PM ]
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Did I miss an event where divine mythals were handed out? :O
Author:  Kenneth [ Tue, Jun 03 2014, 20:15 PM ]
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Yeah, it was an event where a wealthy lord violated me by putting his mailed fist all the way up my coin-purse, ripping my soft pouch at the seams, as he deprived me of the riches held therein. :)
Author:  kalcibone [ Tue, Jun 03 2014, 20:32 PM ]
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the dale was also attacked by a gnome shoved up a beholder's ass. that was given a mythal
Author:  Richard_Edmund [ Wed, Jun 04 2014, 6:56 AM ]
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I've noticed they've become a bit more popular in recent weeks than they have previously been. Has the 'standard' for the reward dropped to something actually achievable? :lol:
Author:  Uberuce [ Wed, Jun 04 2014, 9:26 AM ]
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Maybe it's cos they're a bit underwhelming?
Author:  gorgometh [ Wed, Jun 04 2014, 15:34 PM ]
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Kenneth wrote:
Yeah, it was an event where a wealthy lord violated me by putting his mailed fist all the way up my coin-purse, ripping my soft pouch at the seams, as he deprived me of the riches held therein. :)


Mmmm... and it was a glorious event. :twisted:
Author:  MarioFanaticXV [ Wed, Jun 04 2014, 17:20 PM ]
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Uberuce wrote:
Maybe it's cos they're a bit underwhelming?


Only a bit? They're pretty much worthless at the mythal forges, most of what you can get from them just isn't worth it when you can sell/trade them for 2-4 epic pieces of equipment.
Author:  Kamina [ Wed, Jun 04 2014, 17:50 PM ]
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Kamina wrote:
Otherwise, either save for IC implementation, sell or keep a hold of it for the rework.


I'm highlighting this as a certain PC who bought Captor's isn't using it for typical enchantment, keep in mind that there are other, non-hardcoded uses for these.
Author:  666WaysToHell [ Wed, Jun 04 2014, 21:58 PM ]
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True. A divine Mythal is 100.5 lbs (45.5kgs) of solid magic. Just think of what you could do...
Author:  Kamina [ Wed, Jun 04 2014, 22:02 PM ]
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666WaysToHell wrote:
True. A divine Mythal is 100.5 lbs of solid magic. Just think of what you could do...

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