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Author:  Commie [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 8:26 AM ]
Post subject:  [Boards] Can we do something about the huge image signatures
The forum normally imparts a strict image size limit on pictures in signatures. Some individuals decided it would be fun to cut bigass images up into several horizontal slices, just bypassing the limit.

The bigass sigs make navigating the site obnoxious on my phone and it's clearly just breaking the spirit of the forum rules.
Author:  Silkelock [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 8:32 AM ]
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Under settings you can disable signatures :) Helps with loading speed.
Author:  Commie [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 8:45 AM ]
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yeah but text ones are fine. small images are fine.

i mean people that stitch together 5/6 max sized images into one mega image.

is that just cool? can I just do that?

if so why even have an image size limit?
Author:  Tarnus [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 11:22 AM ]
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Because the early 2000's are never allowed to die here? BB forums are generally overloaded with information-garbage, signatures in forums tend to be often times way longer then the actual message, just look into this very thread.
Author:  Commie [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 15:33 PM ]
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at least I fit within the limit
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 16:36 PM ]
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It's dumb and I hate it.
Author:  PassionateShadow [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 19:44 PM ]
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nice to know you guys hate my signature
Author:  MisterLich [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 19:54 PM ]
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moar salt pls

(maybe we could just have a maximum of 2 images allowed in signatures. That'd probably fix the issue.)
Author:  Commie [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 19:59 PM ]
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PassionateShadow wrote:
nice to know you guys hate my signature


It's ginormous. Shrink it down to normal size.
Author:  Silkelock [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:03 PM ]
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It's 150 pixels high, not that much to fuss about to be honest.
Author:  MisterLich [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:05 PM ]
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I also don't really have a problem, I didn't realize people were even doing this until Commie pointed it out.

But my suggestion still stands, if people are really upset over it, maybe just put a cap on how many images you can have in your sig.
Author:  aida [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:08 PM ]
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Bigger=Better
Author:  PassionateShadow [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:12 PM ]
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Commie wrote:
PassionateShadow wrote:
nice to know you guys hate my signature


It's ginormous. Shrink it down to normal size.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI
Author:  Silkelock [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:12 PM ]
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There are caps on signatures. The limit is a set number of characters and I believe that goes for both code and text.
Author:  PassionateShadow [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:14 PM ]
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Silkelock wrote:
There are caps on signatures. The limit is a set number of characters and I believe that goes for both code and text.

This is true. The character cap limits how 'big' you can make images appear with code.
Author:  Commie [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:27 PM ]
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Silkelock wrote:
There are caps on signatures. The limit is a set number of characters and I believe that goes for both code and text.


There's also an image size cap which people get around by making their sigs five or six images. Try and adblock pm's sig and you'll see it.
Author:  speedgrab [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:34 PM ]
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People with a few images, or gif images are fine with me. Even when i'm checking in on my mobile from work they aren't that bothersome. Some people use fancy text, or have lots of little snippets that take the same amount of vertical space.

Alternatively you can have a separate account with signatures off, which you use exclusively for mobile use. that way you can have the mobile forum setting on all the time as well. Seen it done before. If you think it's bad as people won't PM both if you deal a lot with them, you can ask people to pm both in your siggy.
Author:  Silkelock [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:35 PM ]
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Yes I saw it and counting the total height of the combined images it is 150 pixels.

If 150 pixels is a dealbreaker, get a new phone or disable the signatures :)
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 20:59 PM ]
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Silkelock wrote:
Yes I saw it and counting the total height of the combined images it is 150 pixels.

If 150 pixels is a dealbreaker, get a new phone or disable the signatures :)

My image is the max size allowed for images. Saying "get a new phone" when people are abusing exploits to get around forum rules is asinine.
Author:  PassionateShadow [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:03 PM ]
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It not an exploit it's well with in the character limit. Because you don't like something some one did is a poor excuse to force them to change it.
Author:  LibrisMortis_666 [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:05 PM ]
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If Tormak has the highest pixel allowed, and yours (Passionate) is twice its size.. How? O.o
Author:  SamTheGiantSlayer [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:06 PM ]
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#magic
Author:  Suhjet [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:08 PM ]
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Moderator magic.

I am not personally finding an issue with mobile browsing due to sigs.
Author:  walnutboy [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:09 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote:
Silkelock wrote:
Yes I saw it and counting the total height of the combined images it is 150 pixels.

If 150 pixels is a dealbreaker, get a new phone or disable the signatures :)

My image is the max size allowed for images. Saying "get a new phone" when people are abusing exploits to get around forum rules is asinine.


... such is true but then asking for enforcement of signature size because your phone struggles with them... is equally asinine i think! heh
Author:  bobofwestoregonusa [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:11 PM ]
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LibrisMortis_666 wrote:
If Tormak has the highest pixel allowed, and yours (Passionate) is twice its size.. How? O.o


It's for different images made to break the image size limit by loading then on top of each other
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:19 PM ]
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PassionateShadow wrote:
It not an exploit it's well with in the character limit. Because you don't like something some one did is a poor excuse to force them to change it.

You are literally abusing an exploit to stitch together images to make one larger than the rules. "The character limit" is not justification.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:20 PM ]
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walnutboy wrote:
TormakSaber wrote:
Silkelock wrote:
Yes I saw it and counting the total height of the combined images it is 150 pixels.

If 150 pixels is a dealbreaker, get a new phone or disable the signatures :)

My image is the max size allowed for images. Saying "get a new phone" when people are abusing exploits to get around forum rules is asinine.


... such is true but then asking for enforcement of signature size because your phone struggles with them... is equally asinine i think! heh

Asking for equal and consistent enforcement of the rules is not asinine In the least. It should be applauded.
Author:  MisterLich [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:25 PM ]
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If we're going strictly by the rules/spirit of the rules, as constitutional law tries to do for example, then yeah, we should not allow image-stitching-ness. Simple enough.
Author:  Silkelock [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:31 PM ]
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Do we have a rule on maximum of 1 image per signature?
Author:  Commie [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:43 PM ]
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Silkelock wrote:
Do we have a rule on maximum of 1 image per signature?


I don't know. I know if you try and stick a big ass image in your sig tho it tells you to not do that. So that's why ppl break their sigs up in to five or seven separate max resolution images.
Author:  Suhjet [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:45 PM ]
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This sounds like simple whining.
Author:  LibrisMortis_666 [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:46 PM ]
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Silkelock wrote:
Do we have a rule on maximum of 1 image per signature?


I think the point is, Images for one signature are given a limit. This limit should be followed by everyone on the Forums. If you "stitch" together multiple imagines just to have one Signature larger than the rest is finding a exploit in the system. Your signature /should/ be either the Maximum or less.

So the true issue is someone finding a way to have his / her signature bigger than everyone else by exploiting the system.
Author:  MisterLich [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 21:47 PM ]
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The issue in this case isn't "is there a cap on number of images", it's "they're breaking the rule against large signature images", simply in a creative way.

I don't have a problem with it but it's plain as day that that's circumventing forum rules and shouldn't be allowed, strictly speaking.
Author:  Silkelock [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:23 PM ]
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Stacking images with code is not something I would call an exploit. I'm not aware of rules saying max one image as the current setting for the forums has a hard cap of 255 characters. Which unless I'm mistaken also counts code.
Author:  Shadowfiend [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:31 PM ]
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There's people criticizing her with signatures as large as hers. I am sitting on my cellphone and I don't have a problem at all with large sigs
Author:  That Guy [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:44 PM ]
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Have we run out of things to pick on each other for? Really? Signatures?
Author:  Dark Immolation [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:46 PM ]
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~This week on Always Sunny in Amia~

I'm sorry, that's cynical, but I laughed and it was my first thought. On topic: this is a non-issue. Lots of the height-width limiting stuff from forums is because gauntlets of large images used to literally freeze comps back in the day. Probably. If not, big freakin' whoop. Christ, of all the problems we have, we tend to end up creating 50 more for ourselves. Maybe if people were uploading the Bayeux Tapestry in their signatures I could understand. If the issue is purely "the limit says X, but people are doing it whatever way", then just increase the image size a bit so people won't have to slice them up.

It's silly. And I know I call a lot of things silly, but I mean it here. The day an "exploit" qualifies as posting an extra .jpg image or two is the day I'll eat my hat.
Author:  MisterLich [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:48 PM ]
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If you guys want me to remove one of my images I will :P I don't really care.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:52 PM ]
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Silkelock wrote:
Stacking images with code is not something I would call an exploit. I'm not aware of rules saying max one image as the current setting for the forums has a hard cap of 255 characters. Which unless I'm mistaken also counts code.

Please dude, the image limit is clearly to stop giant image signatures, and stitching a bunch of them together to get around it is clearly a violation.
Author:  PassionateShadow [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:54 PM ]
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May be if some one spoke to me like a human I would change it.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:56 PM ]
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Following the forum rules isn't really an option.
Author:  Commie [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 22:59 PM ]
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PassionateShadow wrote:
May be if some one spoke to me like a human I would change it.


it wasn't an attack on you lots of people do it. im also not going to ask you to change it cause that doesn't fix the problem of obnoxiously large forum signature images.

there is an upper resolution limit set for a reason.
Author:  Silkelock [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 23:10 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote:
Silkelock wrote:
Stacking images with code is not something I would call an exploit. I'm not aware of rules saying max one image as the current setting for the forums has a hard cap of 255 characters. Which unless I'm mistaken also counts code.

Please dude, the image limit is clearly to stop giant image signatures, and stitching a bunch of them together to get around it is clearly a violation.


So what do we do if the images aren't related to the design then? If you have a setup like:
Image
Text
Image

Same thing code wise and "space" :)
Author:  PassionateShadow [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 23:15 PM ]
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I don't see anything here-
Rules FAQ that says this isn't allowed.

Edit signatureThis is a block of text that can be added to posts you make. There is a 255 character limit.

Edit signatureThis is a block of text that can be added to posts you make. There is a 255 character limit.
Your images may only be up to 50 pixels high.
Your images may only be up to 500 pixels wide.


images Nothing implicitly states do not do this. It states IMAGES for a reason. Don't pass off your assumptions as fact and the laws of the land because YOU don't like it.

And of course not. You're not going to talk to me but rather try and enforce a new rule because you don't like something I and one other person have done. Rather than have 5 different images for 5 different characters I chose to make something better for one character with in the parameters of the 255 character limit in the coding. You're arguing semantics for the biased sake of your preferences. If it wasn't allowed you would be limited to only ONE image. But were aren't limited to only one we can post several.

As for 'Obnoxious problems' There several I'd love to complain about. But If I did that would ruin fun for others and rain on their parade. But seriously? You're upset about my signature? You've been given alternatives but no. You don't care to compromise you'd rather just have it your way.
Author:  MisterLich [ Sat, Jul 30 2016, 23:26 PM ]
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I don't understand why anybody is getting so upset about this. This is like the weirdest thing to get upset about from everybody involved.

PS, I don't think anybody has been trying to attack you here, nobody even mentioned you personally, you came in here and voted yourself the pariah for the discussion by saying "glad you guys hate my sig." Nobody is trying to attack you personally here. Commie started this with just saying it fucks up his phone. That's about it.

Tormak, maybe saying flatly that it was dumb was a bit harsh, perhaps just saying that you also didn't think it was in the spirit of the rules would've been best. I'm not trying to lecture you, I'm very often the one being lectured because I am harsh with a bit of frequency. I'm not playing the holier than thou game.

For anybody that is somehow "harmed" by these signatures, just turn off your phone signatures until we have a decision on this. I'm pretty sure that's one of the exact reasons why a "turn off signature" option even exists. Easy compromise until we have a solution.



Let's all be friends k
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sun, Jul 31 2016, 1:31 AM ]
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PassionateShadow wrote:
I don't see anything here-
Rules FAQ that says this isn't allowed.

Edit signatureThis is a block of text that can be added to posts you make. There is a 255 character limit.

Edit signatureThis is a block of text that can be added to posts you make. There is a 255 character limit.
Your images may only be up to 50 pixels high.
Your images may only be up to 500 pixels wide.


images Nothing implicitly states do not do this. It states IMAGES for a reason. Don't pass off your assumptions as fact and the laws of the land because YOU don't like it.

And of course not. You're not going to talk to me but rather try and enforce a new rule because you don't like something I and one other person have done. Rather than have 5 different images for 5 different characters I chose to make something better for one character with in the parameters of the 255 character limit in the coding. You're arguing semantics for the biased sake of your preferences. If it wasn't allowed you would be limited to only ONE image. But were aren't limited to only one we can post several.

As for 'Obnoxious problems' There several I'd love to complain about. But If I did that would ruin fun for others and rain on their parade. But seriously? You're upset about my signature? You've been given alternatives but no. You don't care to compromise you'd rather just have it your way.


Why would the image rules give you a size limit if you were just allowed to hook a bunch of them together to get around the size limit? There's no point to putting a size limit in the first place then, and it would just let you upload bigger ones. These sorts of things are implicit in the rules and shouldn't need to be spelled out because people want to try to be coy and work around them. "Your images" is english grammar implying speaking to a plural audience, btw - it's not directly indicative of "you can just bypass this image limit".

"You are not allowed to stitch half a dozen tiny images together to make one giant one" seems like arule that really should not need to be stated, because it is implied in the fac tthta your images may only be so large to begin with.
Author:  PassionateShadow [ Sun, Jul 31 2016, 1:45 AM ]
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I get it. I'm not allowed to enjoy anything I make.
Beaus apparently I'm breaking non existent rules. Fact remains it's not stated implicitly anywhere. Fact remains it's a ridiculous thing to be annoyed about. Nothing I do is right apparently; so why should I bother?
Author:  Dark Immolation [ Sun, Jul 31 2016, 2:41 AM ]
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You won't do your cause any good by overly victimizing yourself. No one is saying any of that stuff PS.

BUT, it is a stupid thing to get people up in arms about. 500 x 50 pixels is an arbitrary number; there's nothing magical about it. It's not some miracle resolution that keeps this computer or that one from having loading issues.

If you phone is being lagged by a couple of extra images in someone's sig, it's getting lagged when you load basically anything with images. Even then, AFAIK a browser's only gotta pull each image once, it's not like a image intensive thread where each one is coming from a different URL. Hell, when my connection was shit, Gif avatars tended to lag me more than anything. That's not a poster's or threads fault. The solution to Commie's phone woes was to disable signatures, as is provided already as an option, not make this a witch hunt about people who, if they were exploiting a goddamn thing, weren't doing it in a way that messed with anyone until someone cried "oppression!". It's the most bullshit thing for something never to be a problem, and then it suddenly becoming a problem for one person, and then we fucking trip over ourselves to accommodate them no matter the cost. It's beginning to be a trope at this point.

Anyway, that should have been this entire thread in a nutshell. I'm looking forward to getting back to real issues now.
Author:  LibrisMortis_666 [ Sun, Jul 31 2016, 4:06 AM ]
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PassionateShadow wrote:
I get it. I'm not allowed to enjoy anything I make.
Beaus apparently I'm breaking non existent rules. Fact remains it's not stated implicitly anywhere. Fact remains it's a ridiculous thing to be annoyed about. Nothing I do is right apparently; so why should I bother?


Just because somethings aren't in the rules, doesn't mean they don't qualify for such rule. In this particular manner, if anyone stitches together multiple Signatures to bypass the set limit, then their not following the reason why such limit was placed. It is the principle of the set limit. But I'm sure technicalities can be made if this was honestly a "big" issue.

Either way.. There is always an individual who finds an exploit in the system. Not everything can be made into a rule. But just because the rules aren't written down in black and white doesn't mean they're not there.. Y'dig?
Author:  CrazyCatLady [ Sun, Jul 31 2016, 4:29 AM ]
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That Guy wrote:
Have we run out of things to pick on each other for? Really? Signatures?

^ Thank you. Seriously.
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