Dev Disco wrote:
I don't mind deleting a few characters by hand, but this is about a massive, automated purge involving at least 15.000 accounts and 100.000 files.
... purge away!
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Tue, Sep 05 2017, 20:13 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
A few years of neglect have finally taken their toll. I need to do a lot of maintenance the coming weeks. Expect some down time now and then. |
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| Author: | Cratz [ Tue, Sep 05 2017, 21:46 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
All Hail the Chicken! (but okay, do what you need to) |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 18:06 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Alright. I will post this here so we are all responsible if we miss something important. I want to clean up the servervault. If you don't know what that is, stop reading and don't comment. The servervault is currently 10 gig and godknowshowmany files big. I suspect it to be a strain on the nwn server. So I want to purge it(after I made a backup). I will do this: 1. Move all files that are at least 1 year old from the servervault into an archive. 2. Go to the archive and delete all files that are smaller than 100 Kb (characters that only have a few items and levels). 3. Remove all directories from the archive and vault that have no .bic files in them. This should do no harm to current players and established characters that haven't been played for a while. At least, if I didn't miss anything important. Right? |
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| Author: | Maverick00053 [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 18:21 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Sounds good Disco. Anyone who hasnt played long enough for their barely leveled character to be trashed probably isn't coming back. |
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| Author: | walnutboy [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 18:34 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Would it help if people want characters deleting out of their vault? I know people have asked in the past and always been told amia archives and doesn't delete but this sounds like a chance to wave good bye to characters you don't want lingering and also help the server. If you're archiving the vault anyway there is the possible, if outside chance, of reviving a long dead and deleted character. |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 18:47 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
I don't mind deleting a few characters by hand, but this is about a massive, automated purge involving at least 15.000 accounts and 100.000 files. |
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| Author: | Amarice-Elaraliel [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 18:51 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
I guess if there is huge concern, a possibility would be that I, or someone else, makes a save on an external drive. I mean 10 GB easily fits on a USB_Stick. |
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| Author: | walnutboy [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 18:51 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Dev Disco wrote: I don't mind deleting a few characters by hand, but this is about a massive, automated purge involving at least 15.000 accounts and 100.000 files. ... purge away!
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| Author: | Revak [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 18:58 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
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| Author: | Amarice-Elaraliel [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 19:03 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
I mean if someone wants to keep an old chara they barely played, this is solved quick. Log on briefly, save chara, log out. |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 19:53 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Tomorrow I will purge the infidels. |
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| Author: | Estara [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 22:20 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
I miss you Disco And yes I posted without knowing what the servervault really is Wut r u gonna do about it (I know you LOVE IT when I type really great) 
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| Author: | Gravemaskin [ Wed, Sep 06 2017, 22:57 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
When you say a year old, I assume you mean over a year since they were last changed, not over a year since they were created, right? |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 9:17 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Gravemaskin wrote: When you say a year old, I assume you mean over a year since they were last changed, not over a year since they were created, right? Yes. |
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| Author: | Zanthair [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 11:37 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
guess I'll need to download nwn and haks and make sure isen makes it out alright idk last time I logged in with the old guy |
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| Author: | Tarnus [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 11:41 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
If your PC is in epic levels and/or has a ton of items, you will be save. For comparison, I checked on an only briefly played 17th level wizard of mine who only had a small handful of items and his file size was already at 91kb, my 24th level paladin in comparison is 180 kb big. (And in case someone reads this who hasn't read the rest of the thread: If you have logged onto your PC in the last year they will be save as well) |
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| Author: | Lutra [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 11:42 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
I don't feel safe! *runs to The Great Chicken Will Destroy You!* |
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| Author: | The Little Dragon [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 13:29 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Is there a way for players to be able to save their characters themselves? Or does it all have to be done on the computer running the server? |
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| Author: | Gravemaskin [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 13:39 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Log on to the character, hit R and pick "save your character". It should be option number 2 on the rest menu. I did this with everyone I wanted to be 100% sure I kept, though I'm fairly certain the server also saves your char when you log off automatically. And I think we should take this topic to give praise to His Royal Majesty Chicken I of Amia, first of his name, Duke of Hosting, Earl of Roleplay, and Prince of Dedication. He hasn't played for years, but has nevertheless maintained the server, done background work, dedicated his own free time and paid out of his own pocket to keep the server going. It shows a dedication I think few of us around here could mirror and it's greatly appreciated by all of us who love and enjoy the server! (And perhaps for all of us to consider hitting the Subscribe button and give a 5 buck subscription to keep the server going. After all, it's 5 bucks cheaper than following some twitch streamer dude) |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 16:21 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
I have purged the lot. If you miss anything of value in your vault or archive: I made backups. Just because I like numbers... This morning The vault: 10 gig with 120000 characters in 18000 accounts The archive: 4 gig with 63000 characters in 20000 accounts Now The vault: 1.6 gig with 10000 characters in 1600 accounts The archive: 6 gig with 32000 characters in 6500 accounts That should make a difference. |
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| Author: | Budly [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 16:43 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Oh uh, I forgot to take out some characters. Oh well, leave 10 year old characters to be forgotten. 
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 16:55 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
If you played them for a while they are in the archive. You can collect them from ingame, although I don't know how. |
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| Author: | Gravemaskin [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 16:58 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
/s f_file Choose archive in the menu that pops up unarchive them and they get moved to your vault You can do this to "clean" up your vault too, bym oving others into teh archive. |
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| Author: | maglorine [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 20:54 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Just noting that while my archive is lovely and clean, I noticed that the Amia Player Tools link in the sidebar still shows everything it did before when you click on the "characters" link. Is that eventually going to reflect the purge? |
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| Author: | TormakSaber [ Thu, Sep 07 2017, 22:44 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
That's a lot of characters over the years. |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Fri, Sep 08 2017, 17:20 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
maglorine wrote: Just noting that while my archive is lovely and clean, I noticed that the Amia Player Tools link in the sidebar still shows everything it did before when you click on the "characters" link. Is that eventually going to reflect the purge? Dunno... I vaguely remember that coming from entries in the database, and those know nothing of your vault. |
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| Author: | rafaelmacgyver [ Fri, Sep 08 2017, 18:19 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
If I recall right I never used the Arquives and ive got character's deleted from the Server Vault. They do not show on the character selection screen but what maglorine said is also happening to me. All the characters there were once on the Server Vault are still showing on the Playertools. |
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| Author: | Tarnus [ Fri, Sep 08 2017, 18:32 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
You don't have to have used the archives to have gotten characters archived! If they were at least around level 18-19 (not 100% sure what the cut off point is filesize-wise) and had a good chunk of items, they are probably just in the archive. |
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| Author: | Jes [ Fri, Sep 08 2017, 19:17 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Yeah, several of my characters wound up in the archive! Zelly included. I guess it's time for me to let her go in there... <.< |
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| Author: | Luckbringer [ Sun, Sep 10 2017, 9:10 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
I have a PC gone missing from the vault and archive. Sent you a PM Disco if you have it backed up! |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Mon, Sep 11 2017, 9:52 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Luckbringer wrote: I have a PC gone missing from the vault and archive. Sent you a PM Disco if you have it backed up! Yeah. I realise I made a mistake. I also purged small files that are less than a year old. Considering the amount of active players and the speed you can level up here, I doubt many people are affected, but if you miss anything, just PM me. |
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| Author: | Luckbringer [ Mon, Sep 11 2017, 16:34 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Thanks Disco, he's back in the vault! |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Mon, Oct 02 2017, 9:04 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Just a nudge, in case you miss a character. |
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| Author: | Budly [ Mon, Oct 02 2017, 9:38 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some server issues |
Dev Disco wrote: Just a nudge, in case you miss a character. I wish I knew what I was missing from my old vault but It was 10 years ago most where made. I got nooo names! 
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Sat, Oct 07 2017, 14:52 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
The ones you played a lot will be in your vault or archive, so no worries. |
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| Author: | bobofwestoregonusa [ Sat, Oct 07 2017, 15:55 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Disco you should play with us when you've got some time. Even just showing up and shitposting would be nice. |
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| Author: | Varesh Lasandros [ Sat, Oct 14 2017, 21:47 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Howdy, I just recently got bak online an was installing/hacks, ect... onto my laptop but my desktop at home still has everything on it from last time I logged in a few months ago.. well I understand the clean out but out of the few characters I had. The one I had the most! time and items on is gone. His name was Kalevayus Hart. (black dragon) profile pic. tiefling. Any luck id I get him back?? also my log in Is, Acid7635 |
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| Author: | Tarnus [ Sat, Oct 14 2017, 21:48 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
In that case he is likely just in the archive, you can bring that up ingame via /s f_file |
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| Author: | Dev Disco [ Tue, Oct 17 2017, 19:28 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Tarnus wrote: In that case he is likely just in the archive, you can bring that up ingame via /s f_file Did this work, Varesh? |
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| Author: | Cratz [ Tue, Oct 17 2017, 19:52 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
I've seen him on the character, so I guess it did. |
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| Author: | Varesh Lasandros [ Wed, Oct 18 2017, 2:49 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Indeed it did! woot woot |
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| Author: | KnightOfKelemvor [ Wed, Nov 15 2017, 15:28 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Instead of making a new post somewhere I thought I'd just ask here. The thing is that back in like 2009 i played a character named Vrok Silver, of the Eternal Order. At some point he disappeared from my vault and wasn't in my archive. I made a request about this but whoever was looking for him couldn't find him. Now he have showed up when I check my characters in the player tools so I was wondering if maybe he can be brought back? |
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| Author: | Velsin Silvadon [ Mon, Dec 25 2017, 14:32 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
So how would one go about getting there characters back from this backup? I have kind of a long list of characters that I played years ago and was just returning. Sionin Alverith Mar'ves Di'tur Faust Tel'indes These are kind of the major ones but there were several other's that I would get onto occasionally as well. My in-game ID is Velsin_Silvadon |
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| Author: | Jes [ Mon, Dec 25 2017, 21:57 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Did you try the in-game unarchiver first? Type "/s f_file ?" in the chat box (without the quotes) and check the archive there in the dialogue that pops up. Disco's purge shouldn't have affected any characters over a particular file size, and chances are if it was a character with more than 10 levels and the appropriate gear for that level, its file size was too big to be purged. |
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| Author: | Velsin Silvadon [ Tue, Dec 26 2017, 20:30 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
I did but Ive been gone for many years... I was the founding member of the War Knights (Knights of Tempus) and seeing Callus had died actually made me cry since I havent been on in years... I played Sionin... he was the first Champion of the Red Knight... I was forced to the red knight after the GM's said Nebessa would never be accepted as a deity in Amia... I had Sio leave the defenders after becoming the commander to found the War Knights... back when he was a follower of the red knight.. then he hurt a girl that he cared about in the Elistreaan Temple and it caused his fall to Garagose... he was the first Garagosian in Amia. Broken, damaged, having led two war groups in the world, Sio found Garagos.... It was a fun story that I still love... there is a lot more too it I can tell but those are the main points... We'll leave out the fact that he was a Drow hunter and fell in love with a drow woman whome he killed for... |
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| Author: | Galenson [ Wed, Dec 27 2017, 20:12 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Is it possible while you're at it to give Velsin's characters a zimmer frame? They're old enough to be studied in a history text book. |
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| Author: | Jes [ Thu, Jan 18 2018, 23:22 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Bumping this. Remember to try the /s f_file ? command first! |
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| Author: | Velsin Silvadon [ Sat, Jan 27 2018, 23:37 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Bump again. Tried the / s f_file command. My chars are a bit old and I was gone for some time so they are not in Archive or Vault anymore. In backup from what I understand the beginning of this post said. |
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| Author: | Jes [ Mon, Jan 07 2019, 18:45 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
Jes wrote: Bumping this.
Remember to try the /s f_file ? command first! |
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| Author: | Raif [ Mon, Jul 15 2019, 10:32 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Missing a character? I may have purged it. |
i think one of my characters got chopped, its not archived from what i can see Account: Darkelf21 Character: Dynerius |
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