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*a note that has been cut to pieces, and bond on a second note (the cut pieces are in a different hand writing then the rest of the note), the hand writing is clearly messy and write by some one who spends more time in the wild then writing things* *the note is nailed to the board with a arrow of good craftsmanship, with a insignia of the Stormthorns (for those that know them)*

So our great druid overlord cam up with this:

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The newest Project of the Grove and a few very helpful volunteers, is to build Amias first Animal Shelter for homeless pets.

The area that was picked will be the caverns outside of Kampo's that lead underneath the Minmir Bridge.

Great not? except then she gets confusing with this:

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The Caverns under Minmir Bridge are so far unclaimed,

combined with this:

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1. Ogre removal
In 1 week we will have a bog move against the Ogres to remove them of this land for good. Volunteers are welcome. No undead (no exceptions to this rule)

Makes no sense!

I have two things to add:

-Although Ogers are freaks of nature, and I might not be a fan of them. You are suggesting genocide on the local population, so much for keeping the balance and respecting all living things. These Ogers are largely forgotten and cause no trouble.
-Animals should not be "pets" in the first place, and if they are to weak to fend for themselves, should not a larger animal take them as prey, as this is the cycle of nature? Or have you forgotten the cycle and did you shift to one of those city dwellers who fatten their domesticated wolfs, with only non meat stuff, just because they look fluffy and have large eyes.

Is this what the island has come to? we need to commit genocide on beings of nature because they ugly and mean. Just so that animals that look cute, are breed to look more fluffy, and to be weaker, who are collected/BOUGHT when a small city snot thought it looked cute and its parents could not handle the nagging and got it for then, then after some time decided it was no longer fun, can have a place to dump them?

The people who breed the animals should be shot for this kind of animal manipulation/abuse

Let nature take its course, yes, many weak animals "pets" will die, this is how nature works.

On a of note, if this place is constructed, the nearby clan of other beeings have a nice snacking place..

//At Kampos

A reply is placed by an elf in red and yellow robesThe powers that rule the isle have decided the ogres are not people, worthy of mercy, and will be purged; they will be slaughtered like animals in their home to make room for a new home for animals with no home.

If you disagree and have enough spine to take a stand you will find yourself purged as well. Fighting or stopping this is not an option; those in charge have already decided it WILL happen. You cannot stop them. You cannot stop IT. You cannot save anyone. The decision has already been made.

-J

*The Elfnasi would pin a note to the board at Kampo's*

There is an animal shelter in the Central District of Cordor, it's owned by a man named Frank, don't kill Ogres for something that exists already.

N.T.A

*In Kampos*

Did an ogre preservation society just pop out of fucking nowhere? They're little more than beasts who, given an inch of power, will terrorise the trade road.
until they're put down properly. Relocating the Formian hive didn't work out and neither will relocating the ogres.

- Warlord Elwyn Sabel

Any such notices in Winya find themselves removed by an amused looking Captain of the Armathora.

*Response at Kampos*

If you speak of the Frank that would bring the animals to the park in West Cordor to adopt publicly, Frank hasn't been seen or heard from since during his last adoption he released a poisonous snake in Cordor. Several of us had to go searching for the thing, and if memory serves, it injured someone. It happened the night I adopted my Speck.

-Rania Shadowflame

Richard_Edmund wrote:

*In Kampos*

Did an ogre preservation society just pop out of fucking nowhere? They're little more than beasts who, given an inch of power, will terrorise the trade road.
until they're put down properly. Relocating the Formian hive didn't work out and neither will relocating the ogres.

- Warlord Elwyn Sabel

// http://i.imgur.com/9HLr39n.jpg - I go to these places to post these notices. This is what you would see if you do as well.

A replyWhile you may not understand this, as you follow the Lord of War and thus ache for combat, lack true compassion for the lives ruined by War, and consider displacing civilians in those wars an act of "mercy" or "compassion," as your Wars destroy everything they ever knew and loved; the Ogres are a part of the Ordning, bottom of that list or no, they were judged by the divine to each have a voice, and a soul. They have gods, children, families.

And despite being down there for years upon years, almost never bothered anyone. If they had, they would have been removed sooner. But they have not, in a long long time.

There are plenty of places to build that do not require the slaughter of a tribe of sentient creatures, and many other ways to deal with Ogres.

Simply picking another place to build a cat-ranch would be better. You could use;

1. The cave by Sandy Beach
2. Almost anywhere on the southwest
3. Almost anywhere on the northwest
4. If you want to destroy things and take it over, take over the Crypt of Burning Dead
5. The 'Crystal' in the Skull Crags; ; The vampire many felt was so important no longer resides there, meaning it's just souless undead to kill and has infrastructure to use.
6. Remove and displace the "Undead Calling Beacon" that was placed just outside Cordor, and build into one of the houses already there.

Points four and five have an added bonus of removing the island of unthinking, unfeeling undead from the area (something you would think Druids and 'Good Folk' would be happy to do). Whereas point 1, 2, 3, and 6 would simply make use of existing areas that would require the death of none.

But I personally believe the bloodlust of the druids cannot be sated, nor will their minds be changed, they will ignore the undead, the unused areas, the caves with nothing in them, and instead kill every single Ogre down to the last one, as the Ogres futilely plea for their lives which they will do as that specific ogre clan is very weak, and possess the minds of toddlers.

-J

A dying Ogre, a crushed tribe, that is also nature. Death to all Greenskinned beasts and their allies.

Says a post marked with two black arrows crossed over each others.

Why does everybody care about nature, simply because the Grove is involved? They will, if left there, at some point likely raid the brigde, as I have heard they used to do years ago. And what is, from most of the isle, just across the bridge? The Salandran temple. Do you really want these murderous ogres to keep people from seeking the aid of Salandra?
If you really want that, you are not arguing for the good of any sensible living beings, and either are arguing for the fun of arguing, or have a wicked intent.

This action does not only provide a home for many animals, but also, and more importantly, boost trade, pilgrimage and general wellbeing. No matter what the intention, it is a good act, cleansing the isle of evil. Who wants to live next to an ogre, after all?

Also, as an aside, would it not be nature taking its course, when people go in and murder the ogres in there, killing the weak and ensuring that only the strongest survive? Looking at it like that might be brutal, but you were arguing the same for the kittens. And which would you rather have? Ogres, or kittens?

And if ogres are sentient, they have chosen to put harm upon others and do evil acts. For this alone, they deserve retribution.

Ogres are for the most part Black-Hearted, violent, wicked, vile giant kin who eat people and murder children for fun and that's just on an average day. Let the high hunt be called against the wretched ogres who dwell near our home and evil be brought low by Eilistraees blade and their corpses burned for the Dark Maidens Glory! Anyone who stands before this rightous hunt shall be considered just as evil as the ogres for protecting them from long overdue justice. -The Sword of the Moon

*The Elf would attach a short note at the latest addition*

"The same could be said about most Drow, yet you are here."

//A few scraps of paper find themselves upon the message board surrounding the discussion. Placed by an elf in pink, one at a time, throughout the day.

Plan AThey are not people.
Ignore all their pleas for help.
Their screams are fake too.

The easy wayWe all know what we have to do;
but no one wants to do it.
We all know what we came here for;
but now we must go through it.
"The Ogres die so we survive;"
she finally went and said it.
The Ogre cave, they lived, and died.

A house for strays upon it.

Bad (Or Sick) Druid?"We will KILL them all!"
An Ogre holds her baby.
*Druid casts bloodthirst*

Karradon wrote:

*The Elf would attach a short note at the latest addition*

"The same could be said about most Drow, yet you are here."

You are genuinely comparing the good-aligned Drow of the shrine, a faithful of Eilistraeeans to ogres who attack you on sight, kill or maim then eat you? I hope you see the actual stupidity in your argument here.

- Warlord Elwyn Sabel

*2 replies by 2 different characters*

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Richard_Edmund wrote:

You are genuinely comparing the good-aligned Drow of the shrine, a faithful of Eilistraeeans to ogres who attack you on sight, kill or maim then eat you? I hope you see the actual stupidity in your argument here.

- Warlord Elwyn Sabel

There are many cases especially in the past, where These "good"-aligned Drow also Attacked people on sight, When ever their view is different or simply don't like the look on your face. they are not the friendly cuddle sluts many thing they are

*message 1 is well written but not signed*

2I could be wrong.. or simply remembered wrong: but long long time ago there was a war with those ogers, there own "overlord" was slain and in the end a sort of deal was made they could live there as long as they pose no threat to travellers and did not raid the local people.

*message 2 not addressed to any other post specific. and also not signed*

Under the second letter

Do you remember who made the deal? I know I did not strike a deal with monsters, so I do not see why I should hold to that deal.

Karradon wrote:

*The Elf would attach a short note at the latest addition*

"The same could be said about most Drow, yet you are here."

We are the faithful of the Dark Dancer, saved by the holy light of the moon and we shall hunt the wicked and end them as our dogma demands. Kindness to all save in battle with evil the very words our lady gives us learn them well for our wicked foes shall receive no measure of it.

I deem the goddess to be pleased with this hunt of evil, let it be known my personal support of the grove in this endeavor- Erelkacha Kenlyl.

Frozen-ass wrote:

There are many cases especially in the past, where These "good"-aligned Drow also Attacked people on sight, When ever their view is different or simply don't like the look on your face. they are not the friendly cuddle sluts many thing they are

If Eilistraeens have struck you or others, then your and or their misdeeds warranted it, cower and remain nameless your words are the meaningless ramblings of the wicked trying vilify our just blades. -Erelkacha Kenlyl.

Ravenovf wrote:

Frozen-ass wrote:

There are many cases especially in the past, where These "good"-aligned Drow also Attacked people on sight, When ever their view is different or simply don't like the look on your face. they are not the friendly cuddle sluts many thing they are

If Eilistraeens have struck you or others, then your and or their misdeeds warranted it, cower and remain nameless your words are the meaningless ramblings of the wicked trying vilify our just blades. -Erelkacha Kenlyl.

// an elf hangs a notice

Is "Budly" not one of you? He has attacked without warrant before, and recently. I believe the former Steward of that shrine, Rith, did so many times as well. Drow simply have occasional difficulty suppressing their dark heritage.

Why assume Ogres cannot do the same? Goblins can, Orks can, Drow can, why not Ogres? Why deny them the chance?

Richard_Edmund wrote:

Karradon wrote:

*The Elf would attach a short note at the latest addition*

"The same could be said about most Drow, yet you are here."

You are genuinely comparing the good-aligned Drow of the shrine, a faithful of Eilistraeeans to ogres who attack you on sight, kill or maim then eat you? I hope you see the actual stupidity in your argument here.

- Warlord Elwyn Sabel

*Another note was posted by the Elf*

Perhaps you should look into events of the past where Drow that claimed to be from the Shrine attacked people for the worst reasons, but I am done arguing, enough people should remember those as it can't be more than a year since it happened, so yes, I can claim that as it's just as true as the Ogre statement.

And the false High Priestess that goes around excusing those events with wild claims such as "There must have been a reason" just proves how disillusioned you all are.

Commie wrote:

Is "Budly" not one of you? He has attacked without warrant before, and recently. I believe the former Steward of that shrine, Rith, did so many times as well. Drow simply have occasional difficulty suppressing their dark heritage.

Why assume Ogres cannot do the same? Goblins can, Orks can, Drow can, why not Ogres? Why deny them the chance?

Buddly's actions were personal choices not representative of the Shrine or the faith as a whole.

Secondly Rith'tar was no priest and had no right to lead the shrine and his actions many of witch are borderline and full on heretical are under investigation so he is a very poor example.

Thirdly Drow were once Iltheryi a goodly elven people who were corrupted. While Ogres, Goblins, orcs and their ilk had their black hearts forged in darkness by their vile creator gods, so says the divine and any argument you persist in shall be ignored as blasphemous for it goes against the divine truths of the holy and righteous divine powers.

Karradon wrote:

Perhaps you should look into events of the past where Drow that claimed to be from the Shrine attacked people for the worst reasons, but I am done arguing, enough people should remember those as it can't be more than a year since it happened, so yes, I can claim that as it's just as true as the Ogre statement.

And the false High Priestess that goes around excusing those events with wild claims such as "There must have been a reason" just proves how disillusioned you all are.

You are Delusional to compare the fallen Itheryi who were manipulated by demons into falling to ogres the vile children born of the abyssal god Vaprak's own loins, their souls were forged by evil gods from the moment of their birth. Anyone who indulges in the fantasy that ogres are anything but flesh eating, lazy brutes who consider paste made from the eyeballs of elves a delicacy is clearly at best ignorant and at worst in league with the forces of evil. So consider your stance carefully.-Erelkacha Kenlyl

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You are Delusional to compare the fallen Itheryi who were manipulated by demons into falling to ogres the vile children born of the abyssal god Vaprak's own loins, their souls were forged by evil gods from the moment of their birth. Anyone who indulges in the fantasy that ogres are anything but flesh eating, lazy brutes who consider paste made from the eyeballs of elves a delicacy is clearly at best ignorant and at worst in league with the forces of evil. So consider your stance carefully.-Erelkacha Kenlyl

Did I ever write that Ogres are innocent? this just proves what I said, you are not above making any kind of excuse, are you truly going to blame demonic corruption for everything that your surface kind did? are you going to still claim that every person they killed was "just"? you truly are a lost cause if you are not willing to accept the fact that some of your surface brethren and sisters were not as innocent as you would like. Instead of trying to find out who was harmed unjustly, you go around saying that they deserved it, this just proves that you are nothing but scum that belongs under the earth with the other vile creatures that rest in L'Obsul.

But I suppose that's just how Drow are, never willing to take responsibility for the misdeeds of their own kind, because they can't be wrong, never.

I am done wasting my time with you, you of all people that breached the neutrality of a ground because of nothing but "words", grow up and learn to ignore insults instead of lashing out with your blade.

- N.T.A

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