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Okay.. I skimmed through most of the replies here and am not seeing anything like what I am about to mention. I dont know if this requires a hak to put in or what... I've used it before on other servers so just let me know.

It is an appearance on a tower shield but it is not technically a shield anymore, although mechanically it still has the same function, but can be rpd otherwise as I have done.

It is what is called a Dastana. It is a hardened leather type gauntlet with two long curved blades protruding from the knuckles area to extend outward and curving in toward the wearer. Essentially it is more like a buckler since it is worn on the arm and in PnP would have spike damage added to the shield bashing. All of that to me is not necessary bc it can just be rpd without any real numbers. Its just for fancy. But.. I had a character that used that for as long as I can remember. It also added the feat of disarm to one who did not have it, but only after having rp trained in its use. anyhow.. if anyone has ever seen one like this and if it is possible, I would love to make a new toon and play with that again.

Just an idea.. I'll see if I can find a pic somewhere.

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Silkelock wrote:

Oh forgot to ask this. Is there data on the size of the image able to fit into each type of shield?

It varies. Some use textures that are very small, while other can be three times those size.

I'm loving these, your doing awesome. Also Zelly and the other haha Iz's sign isn't that shield. That was Kohlingen's armory shield. Made it to stand for the Knights maintaining there gear. Figure it suited it. Iz's sign is acctually this for reference sake.

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/7781/rkjb.jpg

That's his crest. Since he is a tribal paladin. So nothing wrong with a little blood on the shields Liz haha! :lol:

But I know what you mean. :wink:

I am uncertain if I should keep the decorative stripe on the buttom.

The feather very much needs to be green, but like a normal feather!

Pony wrote:

I cleaned up the texture a bit. This is what it would look like with and without a blood splatter. I can rotate the shield texture by 90° (save for the middle part), but it will not look as good. If I change the white to the green as the field for the raven you will no longer be able to see it, unless I change the raven from black to white, kinda making it a dove. It would also no longer fit the banner Wiltun uses if I did that. I would also not want to lighten up the green, as it is the exact type being used in game by the npc's and wardens.

Could it be done/what would it look like if the middle part(the sigil) was increased in size by a lot?.

The other shields look nice and the sigil stand out and look clear, given our colour is green/black/white it might not be as easy as say blue/silver.

It can not with this one, as the shield is not flat. The middle part is actually a raised part of the model with an individual texture.

GreatPigeon wrote:

The feather very much needs to be green, but like a normal feather!

Normal feathers are not green? Why does it have to be green?

I mean textured like a normal feather. The Ma'at plot centered very much around a green feather. And since Ma'at is the major code of Mulhorand, much like chilvary was for knights (but more so). It's been adopted as the symbol for all Ma'at texts.

And 10 people have a green feather on their left breast still for helping redeem Anubis by helping Ma'at!

Green upright vertical feather, symetrical. Maybe a pyramid and a sun above it! If not gold background.

Send me a few images via pm that can work for the eye, pyramid and the feather and I will see what I can do.

Alright folks, what I have remaining on my list at the moment is the following:

City Shields: Barak Runedar, Bendir Dale, Duchal Cordor, Tarkuul, Winya Ravena
Deity Shields: Torm, Helm, Ilmater, Corelleon, Tempus
Culture Shields: Druid (x3), Mulhorandi (x1), Blackguard (x2), Palemaster (x2)

If you feel any class or race still does not have a good selection of something fitting please write your suggestions bellow. You can repeat suggestions you previously made in case I missed them. -However- suggestions for additional deity shields I will not look at right now. If we feel we have room after we get everything else covered I will return to the topic on the designer forum and then with you guys.

What has stuck with me so far is a wish for more evil shields and dwarven shields. Hopefully the blackguard and palemaster shields should cover the first, and the moradin shield and barak runedar shield the second request.

Hm... seeing we have tons of tieflings, maybe one demon and one devil themed shield?

But.... don't they all worship Torm already? And he's making that shield!

With tiefling shields you mean like a shield with a pentagram or demonic runes?

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Here are the two blackguard shields. I will work on one pentagram and one demonic rune version upping the number to four.

And the first of the druidic type shields, as well as a regular round shield:

I seriously love that eagle shield, but if it's meant for druids, maybe make the fringy bit look a bit less like metal? Sacred oaths and all, ya know.

Mmm, the left shield surprisingly goes well with my Earth Genasi.

The Eagle shield makes me get feelings I didn't know that I have.

The round shield is made from the one the wiltun guards have, right?

Pony wrote:

It can not with this one, as the shield is not flat. The middle part is actually a raised part of the model with an individual texture.

Would it not be possible to work with a different shield model, like the ones using the deity symbols, in order to give them a green and black one that acutally looks like the Keep's sigil?

Anatida wrote:

Pony wrote:

It can not with this one, as the shield is not flat. The middle part is actually a raised part of the model with an individual texture.

Would it not be possible to work with a different shield model, like the ones using the deity symbols, in order to give them a green and black one that acutally looks like the Keep's sigil?

The keep sigil of Wiltun is a black raven on a white field, is it not? As far as I know you are referring to is the sigil of House Avadon, which is a faction sigil and not a city one.

Typically Wiltun colors have always been greens and black. I don't think white was ever really a part of it? The game banners are just always kind of that beige parchment color.

Green and black were Wiltun's colors since before there even was a House Avadon. I think the banner is white and black just because those were the colors of the flag that happened to be in the module. But the Iron Guard has been wearing Wiltun green since forever, and the faction really strongly identifies with that color. If it's possible to get some swampgator in there, I agree it would be appropriate.

EDIT: Ninja'd. Yeah, what Gorgometh said.

I turned the old wiltun one into a different shield (to not have done the work needlessly) and I made two drafts of the new wiltun shield with the green and black. The textures will be improved upon, but you can see what I warned about. The best option I think is to go pure black with the symbol and not have a white outline. It will be difficult to see though.

Very_Svensk wrote:

The round shield is made from the one the wiltun guards have, right?

No, they (falcon and green) are large round shields, not the tower shield type.

Can't wait to see the Tempus shield.

Wiltun folks: I need the input on your shield so I can wrap it up.

Yeah, I'm seeing what you mean about the green muddying up the look of it. Stupid Jarl, picking stupid colors for his faction.

Of the ones you've got so far, I still like the one from a few posts up labeled "New #1" best. If you want to try one more possibility, I wonder if it would look good to have the shield body with green and white stripes, and the center part be the black raven on a white circle? Is that possible? All black and green would be thematically better, but you're right, nobody would be able to see it.

Could the bands be Green and Black and just the center circle white for the black raven to be on top of?

I tried that first, but because the black and green is so dark the contrast with white just in the middle makes that part jump right into your face to claw at your eyes.

Brown and black or brown n green?

How about for wiltun we just use a different kind of shield as the base instead of that one with the thing in the center, like that druid on with the hawk or what ever looks badass. why not just use a basic round shield with our sigil taking up like most of the shield and our colours.

corypx wrote:

How about for wiltun we just use a different kind of shield as the base instead of that one with the thing in the center, like that druid on with the hawk or what ever looks badass. why not just use a basic round shield with our sigil taking up like most of the shield and our colours.

He 'is' using a basic round shield :<

Muspelkvist wrote:

corypx wrote:

How about for wiltun we just use a different kind of shield as the base instead of that one with the thing in the center, like that druid on with the hawk or what ever looks badass. why not just use a basic round shield with our sigil taking up like most of the shield and our colours.

He 'is' using a basic round shield :<

I ment basic in the way of it has no raised crap in the middle or anything its just flat, like "iashlw_055" then add our sigil with our colours but the sigil take up most of the shield unlike the current ones he has where the sigil very small.

A larger sigil on a different model round shield would be the easiest fix and would allow a base field of green and a large black sigil, I'd think.

But~ I'm still a propitient of not doing the round shield at all and doing a kite shield. Much like Kohl.

Well, you guys need to decide. But I am only gonna do one more attempt with the Wiltun shield before you guys need to make a choice for which one you want. It is a bit of work after all. So the options are:

- Round shield (tower) with the small sigil
- Round shield (large shield) with the big sigil
- Kite shield (tower or large shield) with the big sigil

To save you a headache from everyone's aesthetic woes, my vote is the kite shield and be done with it. It's the safer choice, iff'n you ask me.

... But round tower shields! And for a Scandinavian seafaring culture it makes more sense (kite shields are designed for mounted use, round shields are generally more aggressive shields designed for interception and face-smashing - not to mention the fact that the rounds are unambiguously wooden, making them the safer choice aboard ships).

But I sense gorgy's decision is based off the difficulty of getting the black raven to work on the dark green.

Still waiting in eager anticipation.

any eta now ?

Nope. We do not have an estimate of when we want to do the next hak update yet. Once we have an idea, I will work to finish these for it.

I could be wrong but are there no small shield ones? or can the round ones scale from medium to the round small?

either way what I see is art, well done =)

Unfortunately, they're making items for the popular items. Due to the unpopularity of the small shields, there's little point in having custom-made ones taking up space.

Having accidentally stumbled on this thread... Tarkuul needs to decide on a flag (GHOST KRAKEN) so that we can love Pony boy forever when he puts it on a shield. Obviously something in Burgundy would be a decent choice, but isn't necessarily what we're going for. I need to address this IC

Edit: Though that purple base you had there looks awesome.

bobofwestoregonusa wrote:

Having accidentally stumbled on this thread... Tarkuul needs to decide on a flag (GHOST KRAKEN) so that we can love Pony boy forever when he puts it on a shield. Obviously something in Burgundy would be a decent choice, but isn't necessarily what we're going for. I need to address this IC

Edit: Though that purple base you had there looks awesome.

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Have tarkuul made their shields yet?
And did cordor settle for the one presented in the first page?

Given that there is no hak update planned for the near future, I stopped working on this.

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