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Richard_Edmund
 
PostPosted: Sun, Apr 19 2015, 1:51 AM 

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When my PC has a Diviner's Staff equipped (Which gives Spell Focus: Divination) and then casts Legend Lore, it does not apply the additional +5 from the spell focus as it says it should in the sidebar, under Spells.

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msheeler
 
PostPosted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 13:20 PM 

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Please list your base score and any items you are using with Lore bonus.


 
      
Richard_Edmund
 
PostPosted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 13:23 PM 

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Base lore is 44 (34 base +10 from Epic Skill Focus) and she doesn't wear any gear adding to that.

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Naivatkal
 
PostPosted: Mon, Apr 20 2015, 16:04 PM 

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I am pretty sure that it was originally set up so that the Spell Focus bonuses are only given if you have the feats, not with items that give you the feats. Mostly to give more of a boon to people that take the feats in their builds.

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Kudark
 
PostPosted: Wed, Apr 22 2015, 8:45 AM 

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I believe that if the Skill is not in your PC's Character Sheet, then items that grant that Skill, do not add to the Skill bonus. I've tried it with Spellcraft items for Mythal Crafting, and they didn't add to check. (not in Crow's skills)

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Richard_Edmund
 
PostPosted: Wed, Apr 22 2015, 12:11 PM 

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Kudark wrote:
I believe that if the Skill is not in your PC's Character Sheet, then items that grant that Skill, do not add to the Skill bonus. I've tried it with Spellcraft items for Mythal Crafting, and they didn't add to check. (not in Crow's skills)


The staff adds the feat Spell Focus: Divination to the character sheet. So when Legend Lore is cast, it should read that the PC has the feat to add the +5 Lore.

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Naivatkal
 
PostPosted: Wed, Apr 22 2015, 12:22 PM 

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Naivatkal wrote:
I am pretty sure that it was originally set up so that the Spell Focus bonuses are only given if you have the feats, not with items that give you the feats. Mostly to give more of a boon to people that take the feats in their builds.

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msheeler
 
PostPosted: Wed, Apr 22 2015, 12:27 PM 

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So let me make sure I understand this correctly.

When you wield the staff and cast legend lore the character sheet correctly reports the value with and +skill items but only does not seem to report an additional +5 due to item granted feat.

That about it?

Did also check this by doing a skill dice role and looking at the results?


 
      
Naivatkal
 
PostPosted: Wed, Apr 22 2015, 12:40 PM 

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Can't find the more specific references to the change, but there's this announcement that notes fixing Shield to not take item-feats into account:
viewtopic.php?p=1125686#p1125686

Far as I am concerned it is working as intended.

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Richard_Edmund
 
PostPosted: Wed, Apr 22 2015, 12:49 PM 

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I've just tested this in-game, Lore goes from 44 to 63 (+19) with and without the staff and using the in-character dice and it reports the +63 modifier both times.

It's giving me the +19 points derived from Laura's 29 Caster Levels, but not the additional +5 derived from the bonus feat, spell focus: divination.

@Naiv;
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...casting it from an item

She's not using an item with Legend Lore on it, she's actually casting the spell.

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Naivatkal
 
PostPosted: Wed, Apr 22 2015, 12:59 PM 

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True. I could have sworn that Sune didn't want it to work with item-feats either, though.

I don't have the code or I'd look later. Maybe have to check with Sune. I dunno!

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PaladinOfSune
 
PostPosted: Tue, Apr 28 2015, 10:29 AM 

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The code was bugged. Fixed for next update.

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msheeler
 
PostPosted: Tue, Apr 28 2015, 23:14 PM 

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This is in with 510i


 
      
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