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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 10:20 AM 

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On passing and accepting of such fine freebies Johanna Hardingdale congratulates the caravan for their initiative and offers them Brandobaris' blessings.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 12:10 PM 

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Belladonna passes the caravan and watches from the shadows. She watches the hin after the meeting which from what she hears is rather pleased to have missed.

In the following few days she can be seen more about the forests than she can the Dale she shakes her head sadly as she wonders how things can come to of such a sorry state.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 15:39 PM 

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To The Good Hin of the Dale

I, Eia Shaji-Shadowflame, was recently attacked by a person of questionable character just outside Bendir Dale jurisdiction. The story goes as following.

I was in Bendir Dale, shopping and talking to two kind merchants, while several hin was around. I do not know the name of the merchants. The first I bought potions of Greater Restoration and Freedom from. The other merchant shared his knowledge of sale techniques with me, before I purchased a Wand of Stoneskin from him.

While I was talking with the last mentioned Merchant, a man of elven stature announced he had a letter for me, and that I had to sign for this said letter. When he was gone and I had read my letter I left Bendir Dale in haste, due to the content of the letter.

The man who delivered the letter was really a person with evil intentions, he claimed to have kidnapped my bloodbrother, and if I did not follow him outside the jurisdiction I would never find out where my brother was.

I was fooled, he never had my brother, and he attacked me, tortured me, and cut my throat, before throwing me into a portal back to my home.
He wished to use me as a message to a friend of mine. I am not the first or the last person he will hurt, or kill, with evil and selfish intentions. I know of minimum two other friends who have suffered similar fate as I, if I had not been sent home in a portal, I would have suffocated in my own blood.

I kindly and humbly beg the people of Bendir Dale to keep an eye out for this person, he goes by the name of Nero, however I suspect it is as fake as everything else about him.

I do not come on behalf of my House, they do not know I am here, and they never asked for my co-operation. This is entirely on my own, and I sincerely hope that any who may have information will step forward, especially the witnesses from that night.

To end my humble request, I give you all a description of the man, who has committed horrible crimes in the past and will do so in the future. So you may all know his appearance, and stay safe.

Nero

An elven male wearing a loose, metal enforced assassin clothing, colored like the dark blue of shadows. His cloak and helmet fitting the color pattern. Average height and build for an elf, arming himself with either a longbow or a set of kamas. Remains highly capable in unarmed combat, specializing in backstabbing and crippling his foes with the aid of stealth.

Any information may be pinned, inside an envelope on this board. I shall return soon.

~ Eia Shaji-Shadowflame

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 15:51 PM 

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Belladonna being one of the few hin to retain some sense of self respect and control, continues to go about her buisness in the forests.

However on one of her trips back to the Dale she checks on the noticeboard and reads the message. She frowns deeply and her knuckles whiten, as she is friends with at least one of the Shadowflames.

'This is as good as kidnapping from our lands' She growls under her breath, drawing the attention of those in the building. She points out the note to them all and asks that they read it and spread the word around.
She re-strings er bow and steps out into the square were she soon disappears into the shadows.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 16:12 PM 

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*The message is placed on the Militia Bulletin board with the following added note*

Any residents who can confirm or deny the portions of this story that transpired within the Dale are asked to contact a Militia Captain regarding this allegation.

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The merchants in question were myself and Thistle and I do recall her recieving a note as well as her hasty exit. I did not follow her but nor do I recall seeing her afterwards. However I do confirm the description given of the man who handed her the letter.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 19:22 PM 

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Or rather, the term Hin.
I can't find any official sources as to how that term got coined. It was always halfling or hobbit for me, back in 2.0 days.

I'm thinking it's derived from Halfling + Kin
If so, plurality should be hin and not hins.

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I honestly have no idea, but I always just considered it a Halfling word they use for themselves ::shrugs::

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 19:48 PM 

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"The halflings' name for their race is the hin, although most accept "halfling" with a shrug and a smile."

~3rd Edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 20:09 PM 

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The hin is halfling's own name for their race.

In common they are called halfling because they are about half the size from humans size.


Btw.. hins shouldnt even live among themselfs, because by lore they enjoy living in other races lands, mostly human cities.

So.. DESTROY BENDIR AND MOVE TO CORDOR!!! *evil laugh* :twisted:

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Quote:
Btw.. hins shouldnt even live among themselfs, because by lore they enjoy living in other races lands, mostly human cities.


Nuh uh - Luiren ;)
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Luiren is known as the land of the halflings since its population is almost completely comprised of their race. It is a small kingdom with a population of about 840,000 inhabitants ruled by the halfling theocrat Faran Ferromar. Travelers to Luiren are often surprised to find the locals adventurous and bold as opposed to fat and quiet like the halflings you can find elsewhere.[1] The capital city of Luiren is Beluir, a coastal city of 27,210 souls in the longitudinal center of the realm.


And yep, pretty sure I've been taught that Hin is the term used by halflings - other people usually catch onto it, cause it's figured as most "respectful" compared to "shorty", "halfling", "mini" or whatever :P

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 20:15 PM 

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Mmm, yah?
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The halfling race has had many traditional homelands, though as a whole the race is typically nomadic. The center of halfling culture were, until relatively recently, the kingdom of Lurien. The land was devastated by the Spellplague however, as was other halfling homelands such as Arnock and the Chondalwood. Since then the halflings have become even more displaced than before, though as a result they have also come together in unity even more tightly than they were before.

Since then halflings have been found in their greatest concentrations within the nation of Amn. Though formerly met with prejudice halflings have earned acceptance through their skill as merchants and business partners. Halflings can also be commonly found along the Sea of Fallen Stars, particularly human-dominated cities.



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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 20:28 PM 

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Luiren is their homeland and have predominantly hin settlements, even though they tend to keep a nomadic lifestyle within, going from city to city.

"Luiren is the only realm of Faerun ruled by and inhabited nearly excluseively by halflings."

~ 3rd Edition FR setting

"Most of the Luiren folk live seminomadic lives, dwelling no more than six months or a year in any one city."

~ 3rd Ed. FR setting


In other words, Magiros, you're right, but Qualiz has mentioned the exception.

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Yes, but wasnt Luiren devasted by Spellplaque?

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Magiros wrote:
Yes, but wasnt Luiren devasted by Spellplaque?


The hasn't-happened-yet-and-does-not-exist-in-Amia spellplague?

'Sides, the Amian hin isn't really typical of the regular, mainland hin.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 20:44 PM 

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Not for Amians.

There's plenty of topics in the past where DMs mention that the events on Amia don't go with much of the literature, as they are, in a sense, in the future.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 20:47 PM 

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Darn. Bobo got there before me.
:D Good catch, bobo.

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'Sides, the Amian hin isn't really typical of the regular, mainland hin.

There's no reason why not. Most of the hin PCs on amia are FROM the mainland. And the NPCs are still hin at heart. The wanderlust is in their blood. (Or at least should be, IMHO)

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Damned! Should have read it with more accuracy, thought Myrkyl died there..
Damned DM! *Shakes fist* You might have devasted my evil plan of destroying Bendir OOCly, but I will be back!! !

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I always thought the plural of hin was hin ... hins has just never sounded right tme.

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*Inpanagin reads the notice, her finger slowly tracing the lines, frowning occasionally as she consults her grammar book, nodding slowly as she comprehends its meaning.

For a moment she hesitates before going home, unsure with this message, before she concentrates and uses her Racial Ability, blending into the terrain*

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SephiraAndy wrote:
There's no reason why not. Most of the hin PCs on amia are FROM the mainland. And the NPCs are still hin at heart. The wanderlust is in their blood. (Or at least should be, IMHO)


Just saying, things have shaped the hin on Amia (I'm just talking about PCs, not NPCs) to make them how they are and shouldn't be declared as wrong.

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PostPosted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 1:21 AM 

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I agree, bobo. Though whether they are right or wrong to do so was not an issue.

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SephiraAndy wrote:
"The halflings' name for their race is the hin, although most accept "halfling" with a shrug and a smile."

~3rd Edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting

Sounds like it's just a made up word then.

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I read somewhere that halfling call themselves hin, because they don't consider themselves Half of anything.

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Dramatic_Prince wrote:
SephiraAndy wrote:
"The halflings' name for their race is the hin, although most accept "halfling" with a shrug and a smile."

~3rd Edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting

Sounds like it's just a made up word then.


Just like cat, mouse, poop, blob, creature, halfling and drow. They are all words that people have 'invented'. Just like hin. So you can't say that it's just made up word. Besides, if it commonly used or wide spread, as it is, it is not make up word anymore. I can now invent a word. Lets say Unghalla. It means race of retards who are stupid and all. Now thats a made up word.

And learn, that ingame, the word hin IS wide spread and so. So it is not made up word. Offgame, you might think so, but ingame it is common word.


 
      
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I think you got the wrong impression, Daniel.

I believe what Prince was getting at was "Hin" was a made up word from scratch as opposed to the conjunction of "Halfling" and "Kin"

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Rico Ondenfare can be seeing holding a Bundle of cloth resembling a small baby. When asks he says he found it near the Mylocks as an offering to a Deity. The only thing he seems to be concerned with is the child's welfare.

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Daniel_Waynold wrote:
And learn, that ingame, the word hin IS wide spread and so. So it is not made up word. Offgame, you might think so, but ingame it is common word.

I don't get your point. This topic is marked [OOC]. No one is disputing how common the word is in the game.

As far as I know, Hin did not exist until 3.0.
So yes, it was made up by WotC, just like all the monsters and races unique to their franchise. Just like Illithid and Kender are made up. They exist for the franchise.

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The baby seems to be a Tiefling, two bumps are on her head. When asked what her name is, Rico replies "Marisa", the same name as his late mother. He promptly sends a message to the Mayor:

Dear Sir Nof.

I have recently, while adventuring, found a Tiefling baby, no more than three months old I must say, laid out as a sacrifice to some Deity. Out of instinct of incoming Mylocks, rescued the baby and brought it to the Dale, where I have fed her and kept her alive. I would like an audience or a confirmation that this baby may become a citizen of the Dale under my name, Rico Ondenfare, and that she is raised and treated like any other resident of the Dale.

I wish for a reply soon.

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*Since Eia returns to the board, finding her note gone and no replies, she shrugs and takes her leave*

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Enclosed in this book is a collection of unique artifacts known to exist on Abeir-Toril.

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//This is a precursor to Prescia's dream of setting up an artifact museum in the Dale one day. Disclaimer: The lore might not always check out.

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Ilithid and Kender are older then WotC. Kender come from the Dragonlance books and Illithid have been around since AD&D times. but I see what you are saying...it really comes down to not "copying" hobbits.

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Yeah, that's Gygax and TSR history, which is roughly represented by WotC in today's context. Being sued once for using Hobbits is enough to make them learn their lesson though :lol:

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Yaster Galer wrote:
The baby seems to be a Tiefling, two bumps are on her head. When asked what her name is, Rico replies "Marisa", the same name as his late mother. He promptly sends a message to the Mayor:

Dear Sir Nof.

I have recently, while adventuring, found a Tiefling baby, no more than three months old I must say, laid out as a sacrifice to some Deity. Out of instinct of incoming Mylocks, rescued the baby and brought it to the Dale, where I have fed her and kept her alive. I would like an audience or a confirmation that this baby may become a citizen of the Dale under my name, Rico Ondenfare, and that she is raised and treated like any other resident of the Dale.

I wish for a reply soon.

Rico Ondenfare


*A note is left for Rico with Cindle*
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I normally do not post in the bendir forums but I do have a question. In 2nd edition what were hin called as well as what did they call themselves? halflings? hin? or another name?

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There were 3 types of halflings, Hairfeet, Tallfellows and Stouts.
But they were just that, halflings.

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In any case. Hin is the correct term in Amia, as it is largely 3.0 and uses the term "the hin" as what they call themselves. The Hin Fist order of monks (as described in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting book) are so named because of it.

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SephiraAndy wrote:
...The Hin Fist order of monks (as described in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting book) are so named because of it.


Though that term means different things in the Bordello district of waterdeep :shock:

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GothicSauce, ladies and gentlemen. He's here all week.

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A letter addressed to Nof Barshedge and Lyle Torrowfire is left with Cindle Blimmeaf's inbox.

"Nof & Lyle,

I was told a while before the last meeting that the two of you needed to speak with me. I am still unsure what this was about, but as I have not been contacted about the matter since, am I to assume that this talk will not be required?

Whatever the case, I wish to hear back from both of you to know for certain if no meeting is still needed.

Send your reply through Speedy's in Cordor to Harlequin Hardingdale.

Johanna Hardingdale, Harlequin of Brandobaris"

It is signed and sealed.

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There is much turmoil going on in our Dale, about how things are being run and about changes desired by our residents. Regardless of how any one feels, those feelings must not drive a wedge between us when external hostilities threaten to destroy us as strongly as they are now. Many of you know and may even protest the added men around the Dale, complete with their horns and bowls of water. Some of may be trying to convince militia members that they need not be members of the militia and can abandon their posts as they please because it's not a big deal.

Unfortunately, this kind of attitude nearly got a militia man killed while on duty. The moles are starting to wise up to how things are going along, striking quick and fading away just as quickly. No matter how you feel about the way Bendir Dale is run, we can all agree that the lives hin have spent in Bendir Dale is worth more than our petty squabbles. We, the hin of this great village, must unite in the face of our foes as we always have. Already one hin has lost their life to the Mole Menace, and others will continue to fall before this foe if we continue to fight amongst each other.

That is our fate: We will either unite together, or the Dale will burn.

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After hearing this, the only Hardingdale that was pleasantly happy living in Bendir Dale, Cobbin Hardingdale (The often merry, polite and quiet brother of Johanna) felt deeply sad and packed up all the belongings that have remained there by other familiy members.

A few pots and cooking utensils left by his mother, a miriad of texts left by his father, clothes and all sorts of materials left by his sister, but luckily nothing by his more outrageously chaotic brother that had already taken everything after getting a neighbour pregnant.

"That's the last of it" Cobbin said to his long term girlfriend with a malancholic smile before they set off with their cart.

"Where are we going?" Chrissy asked.

Cobbin rolled an old bone die, registered the number and smiled to his love. "Home" he replied.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 2:33 AM 

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*a note from the Mayor is sent to speedies*

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    ~Anne Frank


 
      
Dramatic_Prince
 
PostPosted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 3:11 AM 

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Those without discipline may retire.
Those without courage may flee.
Those who love our Dale, our home, will stay and fight to the very end!
- The Crimson Rose


 
      
aurelius311
 
PostPosted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 3:56 AM 

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*Akly still seems to be angry lost. He wanders around, and spends more time in the forest or on the bluffs than ever before.*

"I thought I knew what the dale stood for, and it was the reason I sought it out. Now it as if everyone has forgotten already... are we doomed to repeat our history?"

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"Earnest Hemingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."

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[Akly] Angry Halfling


 
      
Gunz
 
PostPosted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 6:17 AM 



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Willow frowns as she began to read the note. As she read through it some more, her expression turns cold and straight faced. She nods once and walks off.

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Yuilith Kethil Menaiivan Garadeth


 
      
Bobo_Underhill
 
PostPosted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 6:36 AM 

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After awhile, Lyle pulls down the notice.

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Andrew Fryar: Cordor's Folk Hero
Bobrin: Eccentric Avenging Executioner
Lyle Torrowfire: Retired badass
Marigold Cobcruncher: Perceptive Priestess


 
      
Bobo_Underhill
 
PostPosted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 7:06 AM 

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Only to put it back up later.

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Bobrin: Eccentric Avenging Executioner
Lyle Torrowfire: Retired badass
Marigold Cobcruncher: Perceptive Priestess


 
      
GothicSauce
 
PostPosted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 15:39 PM 

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Maybe not all week...and not if you have rotten fruit!
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How many of you played when the Dale was still Fort Bendir? I am trying to get some screeinie of the that time and stories too.

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    ~Anne Frank


 
      
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