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Last edited by Pony on Sun, Jun 23 2013, 19:46 PM, edited 7 times in total.

Hey there folks,

we now have a new headpack and handpack available for download. Most importantly thanks to Euriga who pampered up two of the female elven (132 and 134) heads and designed us a completly custom made head for female human characters (143), and Naivatkal and Jes for testing these. Some of the heads are meant to be used primarily by the staff for npc creatures, but we have a good portion of new heads available for the playerbase.

The download can be found ---here---.
If you already downloaded this a few weeks back and just want the bug-fixed version, then download ---this--- one instead.

If you play a male or female human character there is a chance that your character's head will change appearence wise for those who download it. This is because there were no available slots left. However, finding out that we have doubles and tripples for that race, I updated those. This means the same head you used is still available to you and you can ask a dm for a head change. Those are:

Male Human (107 - 146 // 102 - 173 // 109 - 150 // 110 - 149 // 23 - 102)

Female Human (34 - 103 - 104 - 105 // 167 - 168 - 170 // 169 - 171 // 113 - 114 // 111 - 112 // 100 - 102 // 37 - 156)

Now to the fun part. There will be no more of those ugly hands and feet for the large phenotypes. This means if you want to play a broad dwarf you do not have to accept those elephantitis like hands. For the standard player characters we now have in addition to the old:

- 1 Male Dwarf Head
- 5 Male Gnome Heads
- 13 Female and 1 Male Elf Heads
- 4 Female and 1 Male Halfing Heads
- 9 Female and 4 Male Human Heads
- 1 Female and 1 Male Half-Orc Heads

Bellow are screenies of the new pc heads along with their reference numbers. These are all heads you can use for your characters!

Dwarf, Male

(101)

Elf, Female

(136)

(135)

(134)

(133)

(132)

(131)

(130)

(129)

(128)

(127)

(126)

(125)

(124)

Elf, Male

(046)

Gnome, Male

(199)

(198)

(197)

(196)

(195)

Halfling, Female

(024)

(023)

(022)

(021)

Halfling, Male

(046)

Half-Orc, Female

(154)

Half-Orc, Male

(156)

Human, Female

(170)

(171)

(168)

(156)

(114)

(112)

(103)

(102)

(105)

(143 by Euriga)

Human, Male

(173)

(149)

(146)

(150)

Just to clarify, if I used the human male head #107

, I can have it switched to 146 to still have the same head, and not what was the previous #146 which was just a bad looking version of 107?

The blue colored ones are the new. So if you use 107 you are good to go and nothing will have changed for you. If you used 146 your head will be a completely new one, but you can switch it to 107 for the pre-update version.

Does this replace the link in Optional Downloads (on this page: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=55960 ) or is there a new one I'm missing?

Last edited by Pony on Tue, Jun 04 2013, 0:12 AM, edited 1 time in total.

Yep, it was replaced. Disco updated it.

Or it seems there was a hickup and it is not online yet. I will bump this topic once Disco had a chance to do it.

Female Elf 136 is Hella dope! :mrgreen:

Struggles to restrain from making another char. :twisted:

I still wish it were possible to get separate eye/lip colours from the tattoo colours. These looks cool though!

All I'm seeing is heads from kotor. Anyhow, yay more customatisation!

Who doesn't want that Atton Rand? ;D

Human Male 146 looks pretty awesome to me. Also really like Human female 105.

Thanks for giving us head(s), Pony

I think I may be confused. Is this available for DL yet?

Not yet! We're waiting for it to be uploaded by Disco to replace the current head pack, and then he'll let us know.

That's awkward. When it does happen it will be about time, though.

Alright, the links are updated!

Rest in peace old 173. 102 and it's blasphemous facial hair will never compare to the rugged manliness of a man that knows how to use a razor.

102 and 23 for the human male are the same. The old 173 should likely be re-added to the pack as either of those numbers. I gather from the post that it was supposed to go to 102, but it looks like something got mixed up.

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Edit:

Actually, all that was mixed up is that it should be 101-173. If you want to use 173, then just use its double 101.

102 and 23 being doubles means we can add another human male head in the future.

Well...that'd be fine if that was the one I wanted

I'm trying to point out that the old option is completely gone. The old 173 wasn't the one with facial hair >_> Or are you indicating that 23's the one that'll get changed? Sorry for the mix up.

173 and 101. Double checked, and it was wrongly listed as 173 and 102. So your shaved head should be still available.

I even checked in the toolset to be sure. It's not there anymore.

I got 101 listed in the toolset, being the copy of former 173. I also re-downloaded the current headpack and searched for pmh0_head101.plt and pmh0_head101.mdl and it is also physically included in it. So human male head 101 has to be there.

101 has pointy ears (stupid half elves) while 173 had round, hooman ears.

Hodor. That I did not notice.

Heh, yeah. Sorry if it seems like I'm quibbling over ears but it's a bit tough to pick something entirely different on an established character.

Female Elf 132 and 133...

(These ones)

... Are weirdly sized and have clipping issues with white spaces around the hairline and ears. While I like the styles, I don't think these are a very quality additions.

@ NinjaClarinet

I did not touch heads that did not have a double for the reason that I thought it would be a pain for those with established characters. That I did not see that the two versions had different ears and it was not caught by the testers is a shame, as that was what I intended to prevent in the first place. I do not think it is worth making everyone redownload it for an ear fix of a sole head though.

@ LetumLux

The clipping issues are very minor, given that you need to zoom in as close as you can on the front of the ears to see it. Given that we have about 40+ slots left for female elves and that two heads make no mentionable mb difference in the download, I do not see a big problem with these.

Do we need to DL both the packs in the Optional Downloads section still? Or is it supposed to be one combined pack? There are still two listed, so not sure.

Pony in my Kraut wrote:

I do not think it is worth making everyone redownload it for an ear fix of a sole head though.

This is where I disagree. Myself, NinjaClarinet and most likely more people than just us have had the particular head on our human characters, and they certainly wouldn't all suddenly grow pointy ears overnight. I feel there should be a fix to this, even if it is a "minor problem" in some people's opinion.

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I do not think it is worth making everyone redownload it for an ear fix of a sole head though.

I agree with Krautboy here. It's really not plausable to force everybody to re-download it. Comeon - Don't be egoistic

I can see their reason for being 'miffed' though. It's now more of an elven head, for a human. Which doesn't really fit at all.

If Hashim Hoios suddenly grew pointy ears, or some other bizarre oddity that did not belong to your character, you would be just as "egotistical" about the issue.

I will make a 'bug fix' download that only holds that specific head to overwrite the last double. That way those who already downloaded it can get the update by just loading less than an mb. I will also have the current version updated to have it from default. This way the handful people who used this particular head can continue to do so, and those who do not want to re-download the roughly 100mb wont have to.

Sphinx wrote:

If Hashim Hoios suddenly grew pointy ears, or some other bizarre oddity that did not belong to your character, you would be just as "egotistical" about the issue.

I would have to live with a headchange then.

Rigela wrote:

I can see their reason for being 'miffed' though. It's now more of an elven head, for a human. Which doesn't really fit at all.

But there's allready over 100 heads for humans!

http://www.amiaworld.net/files/heads/ Is this thread also updated then?

Pony in my Kraut wrote:

I will make a 'bug fix' download that only holds that specific head to overwrite the last double. That way those who already downloaded it can get the update by just loading less than an mb. I will also have the current version updated to have it from default. This way the handful people who used this particular head can continue to do so, and those who do not want to re-download the roughly 100mb wont have to.

Tell me when you've updated the current version so I can reupload it.

These are good, but I still want more! Specially for non-human categories.

Hey Pony, if any of them have any modeling issues I wouldn't mind cracking open NWMax and taking a look. Saw that mentioned above. I'm a little rusty but heads are fairly easy.

Naivatkal wrote:

Do we need to DL both the packs in the Optional Downloads section still? Or is it supposed to be one combined pack? There are still two listed, so not sure.

Eurgiga: The two heads I mentioned could both use treatment, if that's possible. The hair is literally not even touching the head at the front on 132, though there is a hair texture beneath it on the 'scalp'. It just cups over the top of the head like an egg shell, or something. Both 132 and 133 have obvious seams around the ears and hairline at the ears, with white spaces in the gaps. 132 is also just plain too small and looks ridiculous as a result. If it can be scaled up a little bit and maybe made less narrow, it would be a huge improvement. Right now, it doesn't look elven narrow, it just looks shoddy and misshapen.

I'll see if there's similar/other problems with the other heads.

Naivatkal wrote:

Do we need to DL both the packs in the Optional Downloads section still? Or is it supposed to be one combined pack? There are still two listed, so not sure.

Yes, both packs. One is the headpack and the other the feet and hands pack. They both go into the override folder.

Eurgiga wrote:

Hey Pony, if any of them have any modeling issues I wouldn't mind cracking open NWMax and taking a look. Saw that mentioned above. I'm a little rusty but heads are fairly easy.

If you can do that it would be great. It is just a little white patch near the ears, but as we are doing an update / fix for the patch anyway it is a great oppertunity to include those.

Elf female 136 and human males 146 and 150 make this entire pack for me. Good work, guys.

I know very little about tool side of the game. I am trying to look at the new heads in the toolset and some are shiny/silvery. Is this intentional, or am I doing something wrong?

LetumLux wrote:

Female Elf 132 and 133...

(These ones)

... Are weirdly sized and have clipping issues with white spaces around the hairline and ears. While I like the styles, I don't think these are a very quality additions.

132 is just god-awful ugly as a model anyway. Whoever made it was a complete amateur. I hope to God 133 isn't this ugly. Split seams, ugly hair extensions, it looks like someone took a default model and extruded the hair- that's about one step above "get NWMax open".

Edit: Oh God. I'm going to find whoever made this and stab them with a rusty spork.

ChrisP wrote:

I know very little about tool side of the game. I am trying to look at the new heads in the toolset and some are shiny/silvery. Is this intentional, or am I doing something wrong?

Which ones are appearing shiny, the normal ones, or the monstrous? I think a couple of the monster ones turn shiny when you change skin colour. The one which is similar to Mephistopheles does, but that one seems rather glitchy either way. Try applying the head to the NPC you are tesing it on, and see if it appears as normal on screen within the toolset, and in the creature properties where you edit the appearance.

LetumLux wrote:

Female Elf 132 and 133...

(These ones)

... Are weirdly sized and have clipping issues with white spaces around the hairline and ears. While I like the styles, I don't think these are a very quality additions.

Tweaking these now. What do you mean about weirdly sized?

When I had Kobra rip off Vannari's head to try it out, they didn't look like they matched the body in terms of proportions. 132 was worse, though. Not only was in just weirdly too small, it was uncomfortably narrow. It doesn't look like a lean, elven head, it just looks smooshed as if it was put in a vice.

Last edited by Eurgiga on Mon, Jun 10 2013, 14:37 PM, edited 1 time in total.

Here's the tweaked versions. Went and cleaned up a million holes, polygon spikes, overstretched polygons, etc. Not perfect, but at least they don't look like someone's been punching holes in them.

Here's the files themselves. Just put them in your override folder replacing the screwy ones.

http://www.mediafire.com/?slvrslg2i4jtzkd

O.K, i Just downloaded the Optional Files and put them in Override, but...uhm they show up as Helmets instead of heads in the Character Creation, did i do something wrong?

Nope, you have to ask a DM to swap them in game.
Free of charge and takes less than a minute (and your soul).

I will finish the update tonight. Thanks for your work Euriga!

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