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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2013, 12:46 PM |
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Monk6/Fighter8/WM16, the only right way about it.
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Falling Spider
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Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2013, 13:28 PM |
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Why dex based on a scimitar?
_________________ Gahnn Bluetusk Aleksandr Vespermouth II "Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie."
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2013, 15:28 PM |
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Some people's kids.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2013, 15:51 PM |
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Uncle-Opustus wrote: Monk6/Fighter8/WM16, the only right way about it. isn't that one quite hard to gear? You need both wis, dex and STR which leaves very little room in your gearscore
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Murex
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Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2013, 20:10 PM |
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Actually, I think I'll try going for epic dodge. I really want something untouchable in melee. I always forget the prereqs for epic dodge, so I'll have to look that up. Falling Spider wrote: Why dex based on a scimitar? Well, the scimmy has a nice crit range, and it's unusual for a monk. I know some 'real' monks use swords, so I thought it would be cool.
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Falling Spider
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Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2013, 20:19 PM |
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It's just, you can't finesse scimitars, is all. Which is why I'm confused.
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Ice
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Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2013, 20:24 PM |
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If you want the same crit ratio, you can use the rapier, which you -can- weapon finesse, methinks.
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Murex
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Posted: Wed, Dec 25 2013, 20:54 PM |
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Ice wrote: If you want the same crit ratio, you can use the rapier, which you -can- weapon finesse, methinks. Oh, yeah. Sorry, I confused scimitars with rapiers. Not sure why that happens to me. 
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MisterLich
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Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 0:37 AM |
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Nobody even bothered trying to answer my barbarian/fighter/wm question earlier >.> Can I get some help trying to get mighty rage and terrifying rage on a build that takes weapon master levels, and uses a generic human race?
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 1:26 AM |
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MisterLich wrote: Nobody even bothered trying to answer my barbarian/fighter/wm question earlier >.> Can I get some help trying to get mighty rage and terrifying rage on a build that takes weapon master levels, and uses a generic human race? It's not possible; starting stats on a human are 16 Str -> 21 (five level up points) 13 Dex 16 Con -> 18 (two via levels) -> 21 (three great abilities) 13 Int 8 Wis 8 Cha That leaves you with one standard epic feat to buy either terrifying rage or mighty rage. You can't get the Con requirement any other way.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 1:38 AM |
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Very_Svensk wrote: Uncle-Opustus wrote: Monk6/Fighter8/WM16, the only right way about it. isn't that one quite hard to gear? You need both wis, dex and STR which leaves very little room in your gearscore As for gearing, it wouldn't be any different from 21/7/2. The combination in general is tricky to work out I admit, but the level setup is a bit moot as you'd want the same things with roughly the same amount of base feats/skills/saves anyway. Having a scroll monkey to read you the bedtime story of Owl's Insight may get a bit arduous at times, but nonetheless, with diligent farming and finetuning you should land on decent enough readings. Didn't Tormak play one of these babes, btw? He should have an idea if no-one can bother with the math.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 2:22 AM |
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He did but he wore armor. He got saves and ikd out of it. He was a soul knife so the monk stuff was an rp use I think.
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MisterLich
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Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 2:54 AM |
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MoshingChris wrote: MisterLich wrote: Nobody even bothered trying to answer my barbarian/fighter/wm question earlier >.> Can I get some help trying to get mighty rage and terrifying rage on a build that takes weapon master levels, and uses a generic human race? It's not possible; starting stats on a human are 16 Str -> 21 (five level up points) 13 Dex 16 Con -> 18 (two via levels) -> 21 (three great abilities) 13 Int 8 Wis 8 Cha That leaves you with one standard epic feat to buy either terrifying rage or mighty rage. You can't get the Con requirement any other way. That's what I thought; thanks for confirming it for me! I wasn't sure if there was something I was missing or not.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 3:09 AM |
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Earth Genasi should be able to do it no? Mind you I cant confirm. Nowhere near a computer.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 3:33 AM |
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He wanted generic human.
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Kamina
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Posted: Thu, Dec 26 2013, 20:46 PM |
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I'll post the full build plan, but how viable is 25 wiz/4 fighter/1 Rogue for a spellsword knight? It's for a D&D friend I'm getting in to Amia.
Looking for EWF: Halberd, EMD Construct with ESF and epic mage armour. Mainly asking for viability and ability management than a whole build right now.
Thanks!
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2013, 6:11 AM |
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It works fine.
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Kamina
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Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2013, 8:46 AM |
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If Geared Guardian is your beefy tank EMD, what is the Ancient Air Elemental?
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2013, 9:18 AM |
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All EMD summons are tanks, the Air Elemental fills the Crowd Control position with it's Stun Aura.
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Pyromaniac
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Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2013, 14:31 PM |
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Hi! I'm the newbie Yaster's asking help for  Is Maximised Tenser's best for that build when in melee mode? Also do Tenser's buffs stack upon animal buffs?
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2013, 14:51 PM |
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I generally use;
Extended Mass Haste/Mestils Acid Sheathe in combination with Maximised Tensers yes.
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Pyromaniac
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Posted: Fri, Dec 27 2013, 14:56 PM |
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Sounds good to me! Thanks!
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Falling Spider
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Posted: Sat, Dec 28 2013, 18:36 PM |
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Theorizing a disciple of Mask, using monk, shadowdancer, and divine champion. Issue I'm having is how worth no AB/Damage the epic shadowlord is. Either I go 7 Monk/3 Champion/20 SD, or I try and at least make it functional by itself as.. what, 8 monk/16 SD/6 Champion? But I figure the damage is substandard either way. Are the champion levels even worth it?
_________________ Gahnn Bluetusk Aleksandr Vespermouth II "Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie."
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Kamina
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Posted: Sat, Dec 28 2013, 18:44 PM |
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Falling Spider wrote: Theorizing a disciple of Mask, using monk, shadowdancer, and divine champion. Issue I'm having is how worth no AB/Damage the epic shadowlord is. Either I go 7 Monk/3 Champion/20 SD, or I try and at least make it functional by itself as.. what, 8 monk/16 SD/6 Champion? But I figure the damage is substandard either way. Are the champion levels even worth it? Take it from someone with 20 SD, unless you're really wanting SD for the deeper Shadowdancer and Mask opportunities, Epic Shadowlord is only as good as it can be provided it's not fighting anything with NEP. I don't know much about the proposed build as that's quite an alien combination for me, but I can say do not rely on your Shadow too much. It's good in PvM but again, anything that uses NEP or that can out DPS your Shade is going to give you trouble, but damn is it good at epic dungeons such as Spires.
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Exordius
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Posted: Sat, Dec 28 2013, 18:50 PM |
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I already have a mage who can wear all armors but i want to make him even more well defended. I have been told that taking a few lvs of palemaster would grant me the improved defenses i desire. Also the palemaster class would fit and compliment my wizard's style and personality nicely. Should i do this?
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Gobbledygook
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Posted: Sat, Dec 28 2013, 22:35 PM |
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Falling Spider wrote: Theorizing a disciple of Mask, using monk, shadowdancer, and divine champion. Issue I'm having is how worth no AB/Damage the epic shadowlord is. Either I go 7 Monk/3 Champion/20 SD, or I try and at least make it functional by itself as.. what, 8 monk/16 SD/6 Champion? But I figure the damage is substandard either way. Are the champion levels even worth it? 19 SD, 5 Champion, 6 Monk is probably the most beneficial mix of those classes.
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Seventh Heaven
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Posted: Sun, Dec 29 2013, 2:36 AM |
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So is there a possibility to combine a SD with a shifter? Obviously I would have to have a spell caster at non epic levels. Any ideas?
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vidar999
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Posted: Sun, Dec 29 2013, 3:20 AM |
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Third class would have to be druid, as it is required for shifter as far as I remember (but its been years since I made a shifter, so...).
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Murex
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Posted: Sun, Dec 29 2013, 3:24 AM |
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Exordius wrote: I already have a mage who can wear all armors but i want to make him even more well defended. I have been told that taking a few lvs of palemaster would grant me the improved defenses i desire. Also the palemaster class would fit and compliment my wizard's style and personality nicely. Should i do this? I would say yes if you want defense. Going PM 10 can give you crit immunity and sneak/death attack immunity as well as AC.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Sun, Dec 29 2013, 3:29 AM |
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BhaalsFavoured07 wrote: So is there a possibility to combine a SD with a shifter? Obviously I would have to have a spell caster at non epic levels. Any ideas? 6 sd 5 druid 19 shifter
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Falling Spider
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Posted: Sun, Dec 29 2013, 3:40 AM |
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Gobbledygook wrote: 19 SD, 5 Champion, 6 Monk is probably the most beneficial mix of those classes.
Problem there is that it's 7 monk/rogue/tumble class to SD, meaning you need 7 of it since Champion's got that 7 bab requirement. I'm actually starting to think it flat wouldn't work.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Sun, Dec 29 2013, 13:54 PM |
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Depends on if you want 4 APR or not to be perfectly honest.
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Falling Spider
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Posted: Sun, Dec 29 2013, 16:43 PM |
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4 AB would be nice, given the advice up there that the 20 shadow isn't worth it, which is kind of sad.
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Kamina
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Posted: Sun, Dec 29 2013, 16:47 PM |
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Falling Spider wrote: 4 AB would be nice, given the advice up there that the 20 shadow isn't worth it, which is kind of sad. As said it's /sort of/ worth it, it's just VERY situational. I find there is a niche of RP opportunity if you delve beyond the 6 or 10 SD levels most builds have. I have a few ideas in mind to make my shade more effective personally.
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 0:42 AM |
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Are handaxes 'good'?
I've seen them in builds, but are they only really good for specialty builds like Dev Critters or WMs? Or are they pretty nice for dual-wielding STR builds? Considering it on a dual-wield Dev Crit build because I want to use something different and have never used them on a char.
Is there a fine selection of them? I know there's always a ton of swords and stuff, but like with certain weapons the selection is very lacking.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 1:30 AM |
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Yes, they are dandy on a dual wield dev crit built.
They are 1d6 instead of 1d8 but you are using little weapons instead of medium weapons so you are not penalized as much for dualwielding. Allowing you to retain your AB (mostly) at a cost of not very little damage. They work great for small sized characters as well.
And there is a very respectable variety of handaxes.
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 4:10 AM |
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If one wished to cover most of the bases in PvE for Favored Enemies, would this list and order suffice? Reptilian Humanoids, Giants, Undeads, Outsiders, Aberrations
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 11:09 AM |
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Naivatkal wrote: If one wished to cover most of the bases in PvE for Favored Enemies, would this list and order suffice? Reptilian Humanoids, Giants, Undeads, Outsiders, Aberrations Elves instead of reptilian: Since certain aberrations have elven slaves  There are no high end reptilian monsters
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O'Raghailligh
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 11:13 AM |
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Sahuagin are pretty high end.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 11:18 AM |
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Good point. But elves can also be PC players
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 11:23 AM |
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So can Kobolds.
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 11:33 AM |
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Reptilian Humanoids is a very good choice for PvE: Kobold, Troglodyte, Lizardman, Yuan Ti, Sahuagin, and the odd snake in the desert. (Kobolds not so much now since they got swamped by the Goblin Horde)
For PvE I would go: Reptilian, Human, Undead, Abberation.
For PvP: any race playable you think you will fight.
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 14:22 PM |
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It's my understanding that:
Reptillian: mentioned Giants: Trolls, frost/fire giants Undead: Several places for them, including Manor Outsiders: Abyss Aberrations: Illithids/beholders
Figured that covered pretty much all of the major hunting grounds. Though I can see the swing towards Elves and Humans cause of the drow thralls and human spawns.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 14:39 PM |
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Human is the most played race next to Genasi :then Elves i think.The devs probably have numbers. Outsiders also incorporate the Genasi, tiefling and aasimar subrace.
Human pve is awesome. Especially leveling up. Brigands;Barbarians ; 50%If fod spawns are humans , rest shapeshifters , The list is long
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 14:50 PM |
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Yeah that's very true. I am mostly considering the FavEnemies for PvE, but PvP ability is nice, too. I was actually able to squeeze in another Favored Enemy in epic :3 Here goes: Quote: Ranger(25), Fighter(4), Rogue(1), Human
STR: 10 DEX: 16 (24) CON: 14 WIS: 14 INT: 14 CHA: 8
01: Ranger(1): Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus: Handaxe, Favored Enemy: Reptilian Humanoids 03: Ranger(3): Knockdown 05: Ranger(5): Favored Enemy: Humans 06: Ranger(6): Alertness 09: Ranger(9): Improved Critical: Handaxe 10: Ranger(10): Favored Enemy: Undeads 12: Ranger(12): Improved Knockdown 15: Ranger(15): Blind Fight, Favored Enemy: Elves 18: Ranger(18): Skill Focus: Spot 20: Ranger(20): Favored Enemy: Aberrations 21: Ranger(21): Bane of Enemies 23: Ranger(23): Favored Enemy: Outsiders 24: Fighter(1): Epic Skill Focus: Spot, Epic Weapon Focus: Handaxe 25: Fighter(2): Armor Skin 27: Fighter(4): Weapon Specialization: Handaxe, Epic Weapon Specialization: Handaxe 30: Ranger(25): Great Dexterity I, Epic Prowess
Craft Armor 8(10), Craft Weapon 8(10), Discipline 33(33), Heal 18(20), Listen 33(37), Search 33(35), Spot 33(50), Tumble 30(37), UMD 26(25), remaining skillpoints 5 Want to make sure I covered everything. I found two spare feats in pre-epic so I tucked in Alertness and SF: Spot. Not entirely sure on Alertness, but the base 50 Spot at the end is nice. Plus the Listen bonus helps with invisible peoples and such. Grabbed the 6 Favored Enemies for maximum lulz and slaying, plus dat 24 DEX and such for AC and AB, along with Armor Skin and Epic Prowess. The 10 STR might suck, though, and I suppose I could knock CON to 12 and bump STR to 12, or flop them to 14/10. 356 HP is nice, but 296 is damn good, too.
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 15:01 PM |
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You want 26 DEX. Otherwise you can go STR instead. You need every piece of ac you can get a hold of. You will also sit VERY low on AB
26 + 12 = 38 = 14 Mod = 14 AC + Shield (5+3) 22 Full plate (8+1) + Tower shield (5+3) = 17 AC.
the AC difference should be as wide as possible
In terms of AB 25+5(GMW)+3(EWF) +1(Prowess) + 14 MODIFIER = 48.
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Take Thoughness instead of Alertness if you feel you are low on HP. I would also reccomend Great FORT or Dodge (+1AC) instead of Skill focus: spot. You gain so little from those feats.. So little Quote: Plus the Listen bonus helps with invisible peoples and such. Listen doesnt help. =(
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 15:08 PM |
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I'd switch epic prowess for another favored enemy.
Given I know you aren't really the biggest fan of min-maxing and you probably won't play the character the Dex is fine, I wouldn't worry about going to 26.
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 15:28 PM |
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Very_Svensk wrote: Quote: Plus the Listen bonus helps with invisible peoples and such. Listen doesnt help. =(How does it not? Mages that are invis don't normally take MS, so Listen will let them be 'seen' (heard). Mages that do invest won't invest that much (normally) so they will still be 'seen' (heard). Also, SF: Spot is useful for gearing Spot to see epic sneakers. If I recall correctly, you want to hit 100 Spot so you can see anyone and anything. MoshingChris wrote: I'd switch epic prowess for another favored enemy. Hmm... Constructs maybe? Useful on Maxi and his minions and Geared EMD.
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serbiris
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 15:35 PM |
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Invisibility somehow bypasses listen unless you're within whisper range, unfortunately.
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Naivatkal
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Posted: Mon, Dec 30 2013, 15:37 PM |
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Oh. Well. That's mean.
That a default Bioware thing that is unfixable then?
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