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Kenneth
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 Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 4:52 AM |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2011
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Anyone know for sure if the Damage Resistance 5/- you can apply to an object using a Divine Mythal stacks with Barbarian Damage Reduction? The wiki's and other information out there seem to indicate they do stack, but I just wanted to make sure.
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Uberuce
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 6:33 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
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If it's 5/- Slashing or Bludgeoning or Piercing then it will stack. Used to run around in my Barb24 dude getting 10/- all the time, thanks to Barb23's 5/- and a combination of Enkidu's Plate and something that gave 5/- Blunt.
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Kenneth
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 6:41 AM |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2011
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I've got no idea. I would assume it's all physical damage.
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Casvenx
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 7:34 AM |
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Joined: 11 Feb 2013
Location: Badlands of 'Murika
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It should; to mean that if it doesn't its a bug. Though barb DR doesn't seem as reliable as item DR (it doesn't seem to fire all the time).
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Kamina
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 8:20 AM |
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Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Location: Kent, England.
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Though I did not use mine for crafting, when I went about asking which ones stacked, I was told that this one would.
I would still wait for an official DM/someone who has used it for that to comment, mind!
_________________  "Operating in the border between light and darkness, shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception. They are mysterious and unknown, never completely trusted but always inducing wonder when met"
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The1Kobra
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 11:00 AM |
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Joined: 11 Oct 2009
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It will stack with damage reduction (5/- slashing or the like), but not with damage soak. (AKA +3 soak 10, stoneskin, etc)
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Uberuce
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 12:03 PM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
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Kenneth wrote: I've got no idea. I would assume it's all physical damage. Did you mean 'all of it is physical damage' or 'it is all of the physical damages' because the latter isn't an item property; best as I know you have to specify the type.
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Kenneth
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 14:08 PM |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2011
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I just realized this. I thought it was some sort of straight damage reduction, but upon looking at it, it's only for one particular type (3 physical, or one of the 6 elemental.) Which actually kind of sucks, considering it's one power, and takes one stone to do any one of those.
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Kamina
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 16:40 PM |
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Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Location: Kent, England.
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If you want my opinion when it comes to Divine Mythals, until the MCS has its rework (which has been mentioned a few times it's in the process of) the only good thing they bring is the DC-20 OnHit is basically every single OnHit power there is. While you'd be relying on 1s most of the time, it's useful in making a unique signature weapon. Otherwise, either save for IC implementation, sell or keep a hold of it for the rework.
_________________ "Operating in the border between light and darkness, shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception. They are mysterious and unknown, never completely trusted but always inducing wonder when met"
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Aiseth
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 17:56 PM |
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Joined: 21 Dec 2011
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While we're on DR, I dunno if this ever got addressed but Perfect Mythals give higher DR bonuses than Flawless Mythals. Is this intended?
_________________  MuseReader: Aiseth Nosdivan- Master Enchantress 
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Kamina
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 17:58 PM |
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Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Location: Kent, England.
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I believe that's due to, property wise not market wise, Perfect are bigger, heavier and more powerful than Flawless, though Flawless are technically more rare.
_________________ "Operating in the border between light and darkness, shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception. They are mysterious and unknown, never completely trusted but always inducing wonder when met"
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Aiseth
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 18:03 PM |
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Joined: 21 Dec 2011
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Ok! Just wanna be sure on that. In my minds eye I considered flawless to be more powerful, but perfect can be more powerful in my mind's eye too. I got great vision coverage...in my mind.
//:(
_________________ MuseReader: Aiseth Nosdivan- Master Enchantress
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Kamina
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Posted: Mon, Jun 02 2014, 18:08 PM |
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Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Location: Kent, England.
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Yeah, I'd only disagree that perfect are sought after by (pseudo)/casters for those spell slots, but it's due to:
Minor/Lesser/Intermediate/Greater/Flawless/Perfect/Divine
Weighing
0.5/5.5/10.5/15.5/30.5/50.5/100.5 respectively.
_________________ "Operating in the border between light and darkness, shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception. They are mysterious and unknown, never completely trusted but always inducing wonder when met"
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Kenneth
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Posted: Tue, Jun 03 2014, 13:31 PM |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2011
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Yeah, the on-hit powers are pretty neat in their variety, and the DC (being 20) isn't horrible, even though you're still basically just hoping for a 1. But the scarcity of available slots means you're gimping your weapon in some way just for that slim chance, and overall I don't think it ends up being anywhere near worth it. I guess I'll just hold onto it. Maybe put it on a big chain and wear it around my neck as some nice bling.
Last edited by Kenneth on Tue, Jun 03 2014, 13:59 PM, edited 1 time in total.
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kalcibone
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Posted: Tue, Jun 03 2014, 13:38 PM |
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Joined: 18 Feb 2013
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personally i think they should make it so it goes like this:
Greater (Dc 14, weak on hits such as silence or bleed), Flawless(dc 18's, stuff like blindness and doom effects) , Perfect(Dc 20's), Divine(Dc 25 or something as divines are INCREDIBLY rare and usally only given by Dm's.)
or maybe you could just have say... A dm help make an item with an increased DC.
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Kamina
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Posted: Tue, Jun 03 2014, 15:51 PM |
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Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Location: Kent, England.
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kalcibone wrote: and usally only given by Dm's.) They are /only/ able to be obtained via DMs, in terms of their origins. _________________ "Operating in the border between light and darkness, shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception. They are mysterious and unknown, never completely trusted but always inducing wonder when met"
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MisterLich
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Posted: Tue, Jun 03 2014, 20:10 PM |
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Joined: 17 Jul 2013
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Did I miss an event where divine mythals were handed out? :O
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Kenneth
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Posted: Tue, Jun 03 2014, 20:15 PM |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2011
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Yeah, it was an event where a wealthy lord violated me by putting his mailed fist all the way up my coin-purse, ripping my soft pouch at the seams, as he deprived me of the riches held therein. 
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kalcibone
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Posted: Tue, Jun 03 2014, 20:32 PM |
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Joined: 18 Feb 2013
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the dale was also attacked by a gnome shoved up a beholder's ass. that was given a mythal
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Richard_Edmund
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Posted: Wed, Jun 04 2014, 6:56 AM |
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Joined: 23 Sep 2012
Location: Western Australia (+8 GMT)
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I've noticed they've become a bit more popular in recent weeks than they have previously been. Has the 'standard' for the reward dropped to something actually achievable? 
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Elwyn Sabel - Laura Jarshall - Mordoc Ebonhand
Discord: Bhaalorian#5715
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Uberuce
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Posted: Wed, Jun 04 2014, 9:26 AM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2005
Location: Near the bar.
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Maybe it's cos they're a bit underwhelming?
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gorgometh
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Posted: Wed, Jun 04 2014, 15:34 PM |
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Joined: 07 Oct 2008
Location: Southeast (USA)
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Kenneth wrote: Yeah, it was an event where a wealthy lord violated me by putting his mailed fist all the way up my coin-purse, ripping my soft pouch at the seams, as he deprived me of the riches held therein. Mmmm... and it was a glorious event. 
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MarioFanaticXV
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Posted: Wed, Jun 04 2014, 17:20 PM |
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Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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Uberuce wrote: Maybe it's cos they're a bit underwhelming? Only a bit? They're pretty much worthless at the mythal forges, most of what you can get from them just isn't worth it when you can sell/trade them for 2-4 epic pieces of equipment.
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Kamina
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Posted: Wed, Jun 04 2014, 17:50 PM |
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Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Location: Kent, England.
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Kamina wrote: Otherwise, either save for IC implementation, sell or keep a hold of it for the rework. I'm highlighting this as a certain PC who bought Captor's isn't using it for typical enchantment, keep in mind that there are other, non-hardcoded uses for these. _________________ "Operating in the border between light and darkness, shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception. They are mysterious and unknown, never completely trusted but always inducing wonder when met"
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666WaysToHell
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Posted: Wed, Jun 04 2014, 21:58 PM |
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Joined: 22 Nov 2010
Location: Western Australia
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True. A divine Mythal is 100.5 lbs (45.5kgs) of solid magic. Just think of what you could do...
Last edited by 666WaysToHell on Wed, Jun 04 2014, 22:03 PM, edited 1 time in total.
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Kamina
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Posted: Wed, Jun 04 2014, 22:02 PM |
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Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Location: Kent, England.
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666WaysToHell wrote: True. A divine Mythal is 100.5 lbs of solid magic. Just think of what you could do...  _________________ "Operating in the border between light and darkness, shadowdancers are nimble artists of deception. They are mysterious and unknown, never completely trusted but always inducing wonder when met"
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