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Herr Delta Houdini
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Posted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 22:17 PM |
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*High fives the one 'n only Sill* Told!
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Yurell
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Posted: Wed, Jan 21 2009, 23:37 PM |
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Well this poll soared while I was asleep ... seems RDD's are hated in roughly equal measure to SD's.
I'd have to say my hate (after WM's) is RDD's
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DarkAngelGirl
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 0:02 AM |
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Yurell wrote: Well this poll soared while I was asleep ... seems RDD's are hated in roughly equal measure to SD's.
I'd have to say my hate (after WM's) is RDD's
*makes an SD/RDD to piss people off* Nahh just kidding 
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The_Cheef
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 1:34 AM |
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if your answer isn't SD, your character hasn't made enemies with one 
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Herr Delta Houdini
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 1:38 AM |
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The_Cheef wrote: if your answer isn't SD, your character hasn't made enemies with one 
I've been enemies with one, still don't hate the class though. XD
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 2:21 AM |
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Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Location: Down South and Bent Edge
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Done
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 2:53 AM |
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Stuff it, Belgian, Chris. The intent got across, leave her be.
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Yurell
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 3:10 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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Nothing wrong with SDs so long as you have a way to detect them. Or a mage with a nice AoE spell.
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Uberuce
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 8:53 AM |
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You mean like a detection engine that actually works? Yep, if we had one of them then the class would be fine.
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Galenson
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 10:46 AM |
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Joined: 26 May 2006 Location: Down Under, calculating your demise with blunt expressions.
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Pidgeon had a great way of killing SDs. It involves shapechange scrolls, whirlwind attack and a huge sword.
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Yurell
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 10:54 AM |
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Uberuce wrote: You mean like a detection engine that actually works? Yep, if we had one of them then the class would be fine.
Make True Seeing auto-detect, problem solved >.>
But I've found that the best way to deal with an SD is simply to run. They can't keep up with you unless they come out of stealth.
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Dakotaen
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 11:03 AM |
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Unless it's a hasted monk. 
_________________ Profiles: DakoDako & ElWacko
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Yurell
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 11:35 AM |
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Dakotaen wrote: Unless it's a hasted monk. :twisted:
I use one of those >.> Haste yourself to get away.
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Dakotaen
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 11:42 AM |
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It's just... It's so yummy, y'know! So yummy-yummy, in my tummy mummy! Yaaaaay! <.<
_________________ Profiles: DakoDako & ElWacko
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IronAngel
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 12:05 PM |
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Xaviera wrote: herkles wrote: You really should read some of Ed's repelies in candlekeep. I have. Sort of goes hand in glove with the whole Sharess thing, y'know.  Actually, Eilistraee too.
Augh.. I had hoped to shield innocent Amia from the lewd old man's juvenile imagination, and only quote interesting bits about trade and religion. >_>
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ClockworkRed
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 12:30 PM |
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HS lost  .
_________________ Playing atm Eowariel (Elven archer) / Gwendolyn (Monk)
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Colapops
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 16:08 PM |
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You know what I just considered? How easy it is to level a mage to 30 and one-shot people with lucky ones and superspells.
fukk magik.
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ainjyll
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 16:22 PM |
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Like several others have said here, it's not so much the single class, it's certain combos I hate. However, if I had to limit it to one of the classes listed, it would be the RDD's.
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Wyjyn
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 16:28 PM |
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Chillmarrow wrote: You know what I just considered? How easy it is to level a mage to 30 and one-shot people with lucky ones and superspells.
fukk magik.
You should try a cleric, for leveling they are just damn awesome. Good summons, good saves, good fighters buffed then add to that turn undead and are pretty well good from the 3rd level up. I also found them to be great in PvP as well.
_________________ Wyjyn: Loving all of you (and above all Disco) since 11 Jan 2007.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 16:50 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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I wish turn Undead was useful on Amia beyond Divine Might and Shield fuel.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Terra_777
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 16:58 PM |
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Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Location: Sweden
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Wooo! Rebuke! Yay, yay, rebuke!
Or maybe a minibuff like... I dunno +1 damage for round/cha to party?
Or just keep it as fuel. Just putting in suggestions.
_________________ Fear is not evil… It tells you what your weakness is. And once you know your weakness, you can become stronger as well as kinder. - Gildarts Clive, Fairy Tail, Hiro Mashima.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 17:02 PM |
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I wish it was actually useful to turning undead. Anything after Darkhold just resists it. *Grumble*
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 17:05 PM |
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IronAngel wrote: I wish it was actually useful to turning undead. Anything after Darkhold just resists it. *Grumble*
Yeah, this is what I meant. >_>
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fireprooftroll
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 17:08 PM |
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I'm tempted to play a Bard/SD/RDD now.
Wonder if that would work....
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 17:18 PM |
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Bad bard, worse SD, poor RDD.
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Wyjyn
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 17:20 PM |
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IronAngel wrote: I wish it was actually useful to turning undead. Anything after Darkhold just resists it. *Grumble*
I found it really useful as a lowbie, never leveled so fast I dont think.
_________________ Wyjyn: Loving all of you (and above all Disco) since 11 Jan 2007.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 17:29 PM |
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It is, especially if you've got high charisma. You can just smash two spawns in one click in the Cordor graveyard or Aigheshed. I suppose Sun clerics with high Charisma will also kill stuff in Darkhold with it, I just managed to turn them. But once you're higher level, you're just not going to keep up with the HD of the undead you face.
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Terra_777
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 18:09 PM |
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Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Location: Sweden
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TormakSaber wrote: IronAngel wrote: I wish it was actually useful to turning undead. Anything after Darkhold just resists it. *Grumble* Yeah, this is what I meant. >_>
I got alittle carried away. Maybe a simple DC boost when the Cleric hits X,Y and Z levels to keep the range with the HD of higher undeaders?
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Acrid
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 18:20 PM |
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Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Location: Amia
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TormakSaber wrote: Bad bard, worse SD, poor RDD.
Depends, one might be good ( Bard 20 / SD 6 / RDD 4), Bard 16 / SD 10 / RDD 4 and Bard 15 / RDD 9 / SD 6) But the other wont.
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maglorine
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 18:25 PM |
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IronAngel wrote: It is, especially if you've got high charisma. You can just smash two spawns in one click in the Cordor graveyard or Aigheshed. I suppose Sun clerics with high Charisma will also kill stuff in Darkhold with it, I just managed to turn them. But once you're higher level, you're just not going to keep up with the HD of the undead you face.
I recall being surprised when a player of a level 30 pure cleric with (I believe) sun domain and a solid charisma score complained that he couldn't turn a damned thing in epic areas. Kind of a shame. Just have to kill them the old fashioned way with a good pummelling I guess.
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Colapops
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 20:25 PM |
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TormakSaber wrote: I wish turn Undead was useful on Amia beyond Divine Might and Shield fuel.
You can stop that one easy way, you know.
Random unannounced, unplanned deity/patron visits. Big McLargehuge, minmaxed paladin, has been acting more like an assassin than a templar? Well, let's see how the avatar of Torm feels about that.
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blackvswhite
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 21:49 PM |
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the real question is how long will it take for the boobies option to overrun the SD and RDD.
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DarkAngelGirl
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Posted: Thu, Jan 22 2009, 23:54 PM |
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blackvswhite wrote: the real question is how long will it take for the boobies option to overrun the SD and RDD.
Its only a matter of time
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Yurell
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 0:01 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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Yup. Boobies is the "I have nothing to say" so it always fills quickly ... people are just apathetic =D
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blackvswhite
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 0:30 AM |
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its art, really. big, luscious milk melons. Always loved, and in this case, always hated. We really should settle for hating all classes because none of them increase the size of our women's bust.
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aurelius311
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 3:41 AM |
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i smell lock! also, some of the more recent posts could probably go into the build thread.
_________________ "Earnest Hemingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."
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Gravemaskin
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 6:37 AM |
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Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Location: Norway: Home of the Trolls
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Terra_777 wrote: TormakSaber wrote: IronAngel wrote: I wish it was actually useful to turning undead. Anything after Darkhold just resists it. *Grumble* Yeah, this is what I meant. >_> I got alittle carried away. Maybe a simple DC boost when the Cleric hits X,Y and Z levels to keep the range with the HD of higher undeaders?
>_> Turn Outsider rawks..
Nothing funnier than watching mindblanked, duped up tiefling devcritters flee from the cleric! FLEEEEEEEE!!!
Turning's strong enough, ofcourse I wouldn't mind to see it get EVEN stronger.. then I could turn TWO level 29's. 
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justice_prevails
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 17:17 PM |
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DarkAngelGirl wrote: *makes an SD/RDD to piss people off* Nahh just kidding 
It's been done.
Anyway, if SD wins I'm totaly taking credit and I'm mildly insulted that Sorc isn't on the list.
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Shrewd
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 17:19 PM |
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Meh, I don't think you get the credit Justice. I like Siv, he's an awesome SD. It's the others who don't meet the bar...
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BloodNAshes
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 17:42 PM |
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Quote: People only take SD levels to get HIPS, the classes you listed have allot more too them then one feat. Personally, I took SD with my monk for uncanny dodge and defensive roll, not HiPs. I also see many people who go 7 and not 6 SD, presumably for slippery mind. So what you said simply isn't true. It's also a tumble dump class, which is always useful. ------------------------------------- Quote: I recall being surprised when a player of a level 30 pure cleric with (I believe) sun domain and a solid charisma score complained that he couldn't turn a damned thing in epic areas. Kind of a shame. Just have to kill them the old fashioned way with a good pummelling I guess.
Lol, this was me yes? Sigh, poor ol' Fr. Goodmane...
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Phantom-D
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 18:38 PM |
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They go 7 for the SD shop. Slippery is good but not that good. (Even though it might be my favorite feat!)
Also, what is up with adding boobies after I voted? I can't take my vote back!
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DarkAngelGirl
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Posted: Fri, Jan 23 2009, 18:39 PM |
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Phantom-D wrote: They go 7 for the SD shop. Slippery is good but not that good. (Even though it might be my favorite feat!)
Also, what is up with adding boobies after I voted? I can't take my vote back!
Blame the DMs who always love to add that options to my polls 
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D-Finitiy
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Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 0:06 AM |
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Palemasters aren't getting the hate-on they deserve. Playing one, I'm mildly and undeservedly offended by this.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 0:47 AM |
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DarkAngelGirl wrote: Phantom-D wrote: They go 7 for the SD shop. Slippery is good but not that good. (Even though it might be my favorite feat!)
Also, what is up with adding boobies after I voted? I can't take my vote back! Blame the DMs who always love to add that options to my polls 
No, you go SD 7 because the SD feats at 5 and 7 get you Epic Dodge without needing to investtoo much in Rogue or monk.
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Troxa
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Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 1:59 AM |
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I voted RDD, back when I played one they allways got bashed because everyone had one for the wings.
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Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 2:29 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: No, you go SD 7 because the SD feats at 5 and 7 get you Epic Dodge without needing to investtoo much in Rogue or monk.
i thought you need 10 SD, to get imp evasion for epic dodge. pretty sure.
From the Wiki:
The defensive roll and improved evasion requirements imply a PC must have one of the following class level combinations in order to qualify for epic dodge:
* 13 rogue levels,
* 10 shadowdancer levels,
* 10 rogue and 5 shadowdancer levels,
* 9 monk and 10 rogue levels, or
* 9 monk and 5 shadowdancer levels.
_________________ "Earnest Hemingway once wrote, 'The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."
[Kegs] Angry Dwarf
[Akly] Angry Halfling
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Xaviera
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Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 2:38 AM |
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OOCly I took SD for the shadowjump. ICly it was for the HiPS. I like to think I had RP justification for the class choice.
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 7:28 AM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Location: Vaasa, Finland
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SD or RDD... Both can be fudged up with crappy way of RP, and it is done A LOT!
SD, still.
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Amarice-Elaraliel
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Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 10:50 AM |
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RDD... not because I dislike the class in general, but mainly because they are so often poorly rpyed.
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Dev Disco
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Posted: Sat, Jan 24 2009, 11:03 AM |
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DarkAngelGirl wrote: Phantom-D wrote: They go 7 for the SD shop. Slippery is good but not that good. (Even though it might be my favorite feat!)
Also, what is up with adding boobies after I voted? I can't take my vote back! Blame the DMs who always love to add that options to my polls 
It's "DM". There's only one DM who consistently messes up polls.
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