*Flees back to the kegger*

SES has a branch in Linköping at least. I don't know how active it is.

EDIT: The actual branch: http://www.rostsword.org/

EDIT2: You can find much more trough the links section of their page.

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Re-enactment sounds to be on par with Live RP. Which, I'm not really against, but the martial arts aspect of learning and studying techniques sounds far more appealing.



Thanks.

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And on that Rapier is useless compared to backsword or longsword thing, I'd omitted any and all experience I've had training in martial arts thus far but it's become a measure or credulity. I've been training in everything from rapier to brazilian ju-jitsu (fill the gap between with longsword, backsword, conventional fencing in sabre, foil, epee, karate, muay thai, wu shu, cutlass/sabre, and every possible off hand weapon we could think of. Did some wu shu weapons training in China also but they are too hardcore for me).

Much of what you've said about a rapier being caught in an opponents body and so on is true, or about the fact that an opponent can survive a thrust to the body, also true. For me, skillful use of a rapier is about taking the measure of your opponents and wearing them down. Cuts to the scalp and forehead or to the forearms would reduce an opponents combat effectiveness; blinding them and if very lucky getting blood into their grip. All cuts hurt, even the shallow ones and a rapier can inflict many of these quickly if one faces a slower opponent.

You're right about a shield though. Bloody things are almost impossible to get around, I often get a disapproving glare from our Provost Marshal on Duty for using a bind on an opponents weapon then dumping the weapons all together and "going Eastern" instead.

Incidentally I used flanking as a generic term for binds, grapple and such as I assumed that a good deal of people wouldn't know what I meant.

And those manuals... well I for one think that they are horribly rigid. You can see where they have abandoned some obviously logical moves simply because one master or another decided it was to be their hallmark move.

And you're right about SCA. Bunch of wimps and their 'no, single time only. boo hoo hoo' nonsense.

Oh and if you have the strength for it(Mr Mago) there is an amazing Nordic weapon specific group that is active in Sweden. I'll get their details, it's frigging awesome though, massive greataxe and broadsword fighting. They were all covered in scars though so be prepared. Some of them cast their entire weapon(axe), haft and all, in one piece of steel. Scary stuff. Only a couple of our guys could touch them (not me, too scrawny).

Actually, it isn't. Re-enactment is learning how to fight, then getting up and doing it (in period wear). It isn't about RP at all - and certainly no choreography.

I'm sure Theander can explain it better

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I dunno, i've been to a few of those re-enactment things just to fight. It was pretty crazy. I arrived dressed normally because I don't own a doublet or any of that other crap. That was ok until I walked near the crowd.

One guy was dressed as a noble and was expecting people to doff their hats and pay homage and so forth. I didn't speak in period speak and show him his assumed due respect (I said nothing), he then abused me and slapped me across the fact with a leather glove, drawing blood from my lip. I asked him what the hell he thought he was doing and he slapped me again.

So yeah, some of that re-enactment stuff is taken pretty seriously and if you go to one, don't beat up their lord. They all want to challenge you then and it gets tiring.

Ah yes, European Re-enactment.

Yurell doesn't know this, but re-enactment in Australia is considered the 'nice guy' re-enactment. We pull our blows a lot more than others. Victoria, where I live, is even nicer, we rarely even get bruises. Re-enactors in Europe are hard hitters. Very hard hitters. And as the example of face slapping presented earlier demonstrates, some of them are extremely rigid.

Australia is {to some extent unfortunately} not like this. We do the combat, and though we try to put an emphasis on accuracy and feasting {not so much social strata} we are a bit lax in that regard {and when I say lax I mean... yeeeeeaaaah no thanks}. But, it's much better than SCA, we at least try for degrees of accuracy.

European re-enactment, although to my knowledge they don't suffer terribly serious injuries, they happen more often than they do in Australia. But amsuingly, re-enactment with metal weapons, unpulled blows and armour not padded with foam and other modern day paddings, suffers less injuries than the SCA, who uses wooden weapons.

However, that said, whoever that guy who slapped you was an idiot. You should have taken a step back and snapped to back or taken it to his superiors. Two reasons. ONE that sort of thing DOES not happen historically, not in the same way that they're thinking, and to the pompous individuals that historically did do that, they tended to die. That said, most of our sources aren't as 'great' as people think they are. We actually don't have a hell of a lot of archaeological evidence and we all know how little people of their own time wrote on their living conditions, reverence and all the daily social aspects.
The second reason, it's called public liability. As you were not a re-enactor, he should not have done that to you. You could have been anyone from off the street who heard about this and got dressed up and frankly, it's bad advertising. Not that I'm advocating you should call assault charges or anything, but frankly that is uncalled for.

I suddenly like being in the nice country.

When I was a kid, we had a suit of oriental armour in a box in our basement (along with a human skull, dont ask me why) and the hard parts were red while the chain and underpadding were black.

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