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The Incognitos
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 14:44 PM |
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Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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Just wondering if anyone has encountered the PnP addition(unofficial I believe) which contained a list of varied and interesting character flaws which could be taken at a characters creation and would have an impact on the nature of the character in game?
My mates and I used this list in a campaign and found that it added a very interesting level of depth to our respective characters. The available flaws are actually quite intricate; ranging from simple overconfidence to alcoholism to chronic black depression.
If anyone has a digital copy of this list I would be hugely grateful if it could be posted here. Prior to the introduction of the masterful job system I had though that the flaws would have the potential to become too dominating in a characters development but now I am not so sure.
Obviously the concurrent benefits that were intended to accompany the Flaws could not be granted but they would none the less make for some hilarious and at the same time quite complex characters.
Please someone have a copy of that list. I think it was in a Dragon Magazine or something. A chronically depressed cleric is so much fun to have around.
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Olaf Grudgebringer: Stroppy Cleric or Morradin
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HellScourge
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 15:37 PM |
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Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Location: GMT+1
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http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/DnD_Flaws
You mean this? Contains mostly homebrewn stuff. Quite good though.
Contains other fun stuff too. Some of it unbalanced (Skills that are based on HD and not Class Levels) but overall fun enough.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 15:44 PM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Meh, I don't like flaws and quirks like that. "You fear water for an unknown reason" is much less interesting than a character with a plausible story and an existing, if not obvious, reason for being afraid of water. Oh, and I hate mute PCs and similar flaws that add nothing but awkward "quirkiness" to a PC.
But yeah, I guess the table can be useful for inspiration. But then, you might as well use any academic source of psychological/physiological/social abnormalities and pick the ones that fit your character background. Rolling dice or randomly picking stuff from a table always feels artificial, IMO.
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Nekhy
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 16:09 PM |
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fireprooftroll
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 16:13 PM |
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Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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Easy
Absentminded- Preoccupied to the extent of being unaware of one's immediate surroundings. Abstracted, daydreaming, inattentive, oblivious, forgetful.
Abusive- Characterized by improper infliction of physical or psychological maltreatment towards another.
Alcoholic- A person who drinks alcoholic substances habitually and to excess or who suffers from alcoholism.
Addict- One who is addicted, as to narcotics or a compulsive activity. (gambling, drugs, sex, etc. List specific addiction.)
Aimless- Devoid of direction or purpose.
Anxious- Full of mental distress or uneasiness because of fear of danger or misfortune; greatly worried; solicitous.
Arrogant- Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance. Inclined to social exclusiveness and who rebuff the advances of people considered inferior. Snobbish.
Audacious- Recklessly bold in defiance of convention, propriety, law, or the like; insolent; braze, disobedient.
Bigmouth- A loudmouthed or gossipy person.
Bigot- One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Blunt- Characterized by directness in manner or speech; without subtlety or evasion. Frank, callous, insensitive, brusque.
Bold- In a bad sense, too forward; taking undue liberties; over assuming or confident; lacking proper modesty or restraint; rude; impudent. Abrupt, brazen, cheeky, brassy, audacious.
Callous- They are hardened to emotions, rarely showing any form of it in expression. Unfeeling. Cold.
Childish- Marked by or indicating a lack of maturity; puerile.
Complex- An exaggerated or obsessive concern or fear. (List specific complex.)
Cruel- Mean to anyone or anything, without care or regard to consequences and feelings.
Cursed- A person who has befallen a prayer for evil or misfortune, placed under a spell, or borne into an evil circumstance, and suffers for it. Damned.
Dependent- Unable to exist, sustain oneself, or act appropriately or normally without the assistance or direction of another.
Deranged- Mentally decayed. Insane. Crazy. Mad. Psychotic.
Disloyal- Lacking loyalty. Unfaithful, perfidious, traitorous, treasonable
Disability- A disadvantage or deficiency, especially a physical or mental impairment that interferes with or prevents normal achievement in a particular area. (List the disability or disabilities. Exp blind, missing limbs, deaf, color blind, no sense of smell, etc)
Disorder- An ailment that affects the function of mind or body. (List the disorders name if they have one.) Mental Disorder List.
Disturbed- Showing some or a few signs or symptoms of mental or emotional illness. Confused, disordered, neurotic, troubled.
Dubious- Fraught with uncertainty or doubt. Undecided, doubtful, unsure.
Dyslexic- Affected by dyslexia, a learning disorder marked by impairment of the ability to recognize and comprehend written words.
Egotistical- Characteristic of those having an inflated idea of their own importance. Boastful, pompous.
Envious- Showing extreme cupidity; painfully desirous of another's advantages; covetous, jealous.
Erratic- Deviating from the customary course in conduct or opinion; eccentric: erratic behavior. Eccentric, bizarre, outlandish, strange.
Fanaticism- Fanatic outlook or behavior especially as exhibited by excessive enthusiasm, unreasoning zeal, or wild and extravagant notions on some subject.
Fickle- Characterized by erratic changeableness or instability, especially with regard to affections or attachments; capricious.
Fierce- Marked by extreme intensity of emotions or convictions; inclined to react violently; fervid; "fierce loyalty"; "in a tearing rage"; "vehement dislike"; "violent passions".
Finicky- Excessively particular or fastidious; difficult to please; fussy. Too much concerned with detail. Meticulous, fastidious, choosy, critical, picky, prissy, persnickety.
Fixation- In psychoanalytic theory, a strong attachment to a person or thing, especially such an attachment formed in childhood or infancy and manifested in immature or neurotic behavior that persists throughout life. Fetish, quirk, obsession, infatuation.
Flirt-To make playfully romantic or sexual overtures; behavior intended to arouse sexual interest. Minx. Tease.
Fools Love- A person who is always falling in love or believes they are in love, for the wrong person or even multiple people (usually one after another), and typically love at first sight. Star-crossed, ill-fated-love.
Frail- Physically weak and easily broken or damaged. Having delicate health; not robust. Feeble, breakable, sickly, dainty, brittle, fallible, imperfect, weak.
Fraudulent- Given to or using fraud, as a person; cheating; dishonest. Deceitful, deceptive, crooked, underhanded.
Gluttonous- Given to excess in consumption of especially food or drink. Voracious, ravenous, wolfish, piggish, insatiable.
Gruff-Brusque or stern in manner or appearance. Crusty, rough, surly.
Gullible- Will believe any information given, regardless of how valid or truthful it is, easily deceived or duped.
Habit- A rather revolting personal habit. (List habit- picks nose, spits tobacco everywhere, drools profusely, bad body odor, etc.)
Hard- A person who is difficult to deal with, manage, control, overcome, or understand. Hard emotions, hard hearted.
Hedonistic- Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses.
Hoity-toity- Given to flights of fancy; capricious; frivolous. Prone to giddy behavior, flighty.
Humorless- The inability to find humor in things, and most certainly in themselves.
Hypocritical- One who is always contradicting their own beliefs, actions or sayings. A person who professes beliefs and opinions for others that he does not hold. Being a hypocrite.
Idealist- One whose conduct is influenced by ideals that often conflict with practical considerations. One who is unrealistic and impractical, guided more by ideals than by practical considerations.
Idiotic- Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless.
Ignorant- Lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge.
Illiterate- Unable to read and write.
Impatient- Unable to wait patiently or tolerate delay; restless. Unable to endure irritation or opposition; intolerant.
Impious- Lacking piety and reverence for a god/gods and their followers.
Incompetent- Unable to execute tasks, no matter how the size or difficulty.
Indecisive- Characterized by lack of decision and firmness, especially under pressure.
Indifferent- The trait of lacking enthusiasm for or interest in things generally, remaining calm and seeming not to care; a casual lack of concern. Having or showing little or no interest in anything; languid; spiritless.
Infamy- Having an extremely bad reputation, public reproach, or strong condemnation as the result of a shameful, criminal, or outrageous act that affects how others view them.
Intolerant- Unwilling to tolerate difference of opinion and narrow-minded about cherished opinions.
Immature- Emotionally undeveloped; juvenile; childish.
Impish- Naughtily or annoyingly playful.
Judgmental- Inclined to make and form judgments, especially moral or personal ones, based on ones own opinions or impressions towards others/practices/groups/religions based on appearance, reputation, occupation, etc.
Klutz- Clumsy. Blunderer.
Lazy- Resistant to work or exertion; disposed to idleness.
Lewd- Inclined to, characterized by, or inciting to lust or lechery; lascivious. Obscene or indecent, as language or songs; salacious.
Liar- Compulsively and purposefully tells false truths more often than not. A person who has lied or who lies repeatedly.
Lustful- Driven by lust; preoccupied with or exhibiting lustful desires.
Masochist- The deriving of sexual gratification, or the tendency to derive sexual gratification, from being physically or emotionally abused. A willingness or tendency to subject oneself to unpleasant or trying experiences.
Meddlesome- Intrusive in a meddling or offensive manner, given to meddling; interfering.
Meek- Evidencing little spirit or courage; overly submissive or compliant; humble in spirit or manner; suggesting retiring mildness or even cowed submissiveness.
Megalomaniac- A psycho pathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
Murderer- One guilty of murder; a person who unlawfully kills a human being. Killer, butchered, cutthroat.
Naive- Lacking worldly experience and understanding, simple and guileless; showing or characterized by a lack of sophistication and critical judgment.
Nervous- Easily agitated or distressed; high-strung or jumpy.
Nonviolent- Abstaining from the use of violence. (can double as a merit)
Nosey- Given to prying into the affairs of others; snoopy. Offensively curious or inquisitive.
Obsessive- An unhealthy and compulsive preoccupation with something or someone.
Oppressor- A person of authority who subjects others to undue pressures, to keep down by severe and unjust use of force or authority.
Overambitious- Having a strong excessive desire for success or achievement.
Overemotional- Excessively or abnormally emotional. Sensitive about themselves and others, more so than the average person.
Overprotective- To protect too much; coddle.
Overconfident- Excessively confident; presumptuous.
Overzealous- Marked by excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or idea.
Pacifist- Opposition to war or violence as a means of resolving disputes. (Can double as a merit in certain cases)
Paranoid- Exhibiting or characterized by extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others.
Peevish- Expressing fretfulness and discontent, or unjustifiable dissatisfaction. Cantankerous, cross, ill-tempered, testy, captious, discontented, crotchety, cranky, ornery.
Pest- One that pesters or annoys, with or without realizing it. Nuisance. Annoying. Nag.
Pessimist- A tendency to stress the negative or unfavorable or to take the gloomiest possible view.
Perfectionist- A propensity for being displeased with anything that is not perfect or does not meet extremely high standards.
Phobia- They have a severe form of fear when it comes to this one thing. (Dark, Spiders, Cats, tight spaces, etc. List specific phobia.)The Phobia List.
Practical- Level-headed, efficient, and unspeculative. No-nonsense. (can double for a merit)
Precarious- Dependent on circumstances beyond one's control; uncertain; unstable; insecure.
Predictable- Easily seen through and assessable, where almost anyone can predict reactions and actions of said person by having met or known them even for a short time.
Proud- Filled with or showing excessive self-esteem, and will often shirk help from others for the sake of pride.
Rake- An immoral or dissolute person, acting without moral restraint, who defies established religious, social, expected precepts; a freethinker.
Rebellious- Defying or resisting some established authority, government, or tradition; insubordinate; inclined to rebel.
Reckless- Heedless. Headstrong. Foolhardy. Unthinking boldness, wild carelessness and disregard for consequences.
Remorseless- Without remorse; merciless; pitiless; relentless.
Rigorous- Rigidly accurate; allowing no deviation from a standard; demanding strict attention to rules and procedures.
Sadist- The deriving of sexual gratification or the tendency to derive sexual gratification from inflicting pain or emotional abuse on others. Deriving of pleasure, or the tendency to derive pleasure, from cruelty.
Sarcastic- A subtle form of mockery in which an intended meaning is conveyed obliquely.
Sadomasochist- Both sadist and masochist combined.
Skeptic- One who instinctively or habitually doubts, questions, or disagrees with assertions or generally accepted conclusions.
Seducer- To lead others astray, as from duty, rectitude, or the like; corrupt. To attempt to lead or draw someone away, as from principles, faith, or allegiance.
Senile- Showing a decline or deterioration of physical strength or mental functioning, esp. short-term memory and alertness, as a result of old age or disease.
Scoundrel- A wicked or evil person; someone who does evil deliberately.
Selfish- Concerned chiefly or only with oneself.
Self-Martyr- One who purposely makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy from others, as a form of manipulation, and always for a selfish cause or reason.
Self-righteous- Piously sure of one's own righteousness; moralistic. Exhibiting pious self-assurance. Holier-than-thou, sanctimonious.
Shallow- Lacking depth of intellect or knowledge; concerned only with what is obvious.
Smart Ass- Thinks they know it all, and in some ways they may, but they can be greatly annoying and difficult to deal with at times, especially in arguments.
Soft-hearted- Having softness or tenderness of heart that can lead them into trouble; susceptible of pity or other kindly affection. They cannot resist helping someone they see in trouble, suffering or in need, and often don't think of the repercussions or situation before doing so.
Solemn- Deeply earnest, serious, and sober.
Spineless- Lacking courage. Cowardly, wimp, lily-livered, gutless.
Spiteful- Showing malicious ill will and a desire to hurt; motivated by spite; vindictive person who will look for occasions for resentment. Vengeful.
Spoiled- Treated with excessive indulgence and pampering from earliest childhood, and has no notion of hard work, self care or money management; coddled, pampered. Having the character or disposition harmed by pampering or over-solicitous attention.
Stubborn- Unreasonably, often perversely unyielding; bullheaded. Firmly resolved or determined; resolute.
Squeamish- Excessively fastidious and easily disgusted.
Superstitious- An irrational belief arising from ignorance or fear from an irrational belief that an object, action, or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences its outcome.
Tactless- Lacking or showing a lack of what is fitting and considerate in dealing with others.
Temperamental- Moody, irritable, or sensitive. Excitable, volatile, emotional.
Temptation- They have something that tempts, entices, or allures them, that is hard to resist. This could be anything, and can drive the character to do things of ill nature.
Theatrical- Having a flair for over dramatizing situations, doing things in a 'big way' and love to be 'center stage'.
Tongue-tied- Speechless or confused in expression, as from shyness, embarrassment, or astonishment.
Timid-Tends to be shy and/or quiet, shrinking away from offering opinions or from strangers and newcomers, fearing confrontations and violence.
Troublemaker- Someone who deliberately stirs up trouble, intentionally or unintentionally.
Ugly- Very unattractive or unpleasant to look at; offensive to the sense of beauty; displeasing in appearance. Uncomely, unsightly, unlovely, homely.
Unlucky- Marked by or causing misfortune; illfated. Destined for misfortune; doomed.
Untrustworthy- Not worthy of trust or belief. Backstabber.
Unpredictable- Difficult to foretell or foresee, their actions are so chaotic its impossible to know what they are going to do next.
User- A person who uses something or someone selfishly or unethically.
Vain- Holding or characterized by an unduly high opinion of their physical appearance. Lovers of themselves. Conceited, egotistic, narcissistic.
Weak-willed- Lacking willpower, strength of will to carry out one's decisions, wishes, or plans. Easily swayed.
Withdrawn- Not friendly or Sociable. Aloof.
Whore- Harlot. A prostitute, a person who is considered sexually promiscuous, considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
Zealot- An excessively zealous person; fanatic.
_________________ The Lords of War
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 16:15 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia
Fear of the number 666.
Bloody usefull for a paladin. UAH. A Fearless paladin with Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia.
It's gonna be a moment 22
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Cori
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 17:18 PM |
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Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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So.....how does a Phobophobe live with themselves?
And...a Nomatophobe? Phobia of names? Seriously?
Air- Anemophobia?
Some of the phobia's listed on that page Nekhy linked are.....odd. To say the least.
And Plutophobia? I think the server would be a better place if everyone became inflicted by that for a little while. And the orphanage would become the grandest palatial building in all of amia.
_________________ Role with the Punches...
Elan: A 10% chance is pretty unlikely, but everyone knows that a one-in-a-million chance is a sure thing!
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Terra_777
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 17:22 PM |
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Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Location: Sweden
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Hydrophobia and hubris. 
_________________ Fear is not evil… It tells you what your weakness is. And once you know your weakness, you can become stronger as well as kinder. - Gildarts Clive, Fairy Tail, Hiro Mashima.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 20:15 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Just becaus the Phobia is listed there doesn't mean it actually exists. I mean, People are ...People.
IF they have nothing to do they'll get themselves a hobby, SOMEBODY made it his/her hobby to come up with a lot of phobias, i recon
But anyway....Fear of air? What the (Cencored) I got the picture of a guy running around with Scuba tubes all the time.
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fjook
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 20:32 PM |
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Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: CANADA
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people are alergic to something common in water, so they have to have special type of showers that do not use water, among other things, so I do not see why the phobia of air is that high fetched.
It was on the british news website two-three years ago the allergy thing.
_________________ 2006/2009 2nd craziest Character
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Scimiter
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 20:36 PM |
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Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Location: Canada
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My personal view is the each of these flaw do need to by system based. Every one of the can be RPed if they are part of your PCs personality. With nothing more needed
_________________ Guys I play: Finng Meras Joshua Steel Daniel Makie Celub Elubmiire Tristan Len'ionel 
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Pony
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 22:59 PM |
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Joined: 07 May 2005
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My characters already have flaws to fit their style, for instance Sharina. Alone from the top posted list I can take a lot which fit her.:
Humorless, Idealist, Intolerant, Judgmental, Overzealous, Proud, Zealot
None of these I choose at her creation, but they came from the characters history. Her lack of emotion came from her devotion and believe that her personal life no longer has a place next to her duty. Her intolerance came to be due to the fact that most people (player characters) are overly tolerant to an extend of old cordor. Her pride is a reflection of the fact she believes everyone has a place in a social class structure and she was raised that way. Cleregy, nobility on the top, while those who act like peasants can even forfeit their life with being ill-mannered towards their superiors.
While I think the list is great for ideas, they should fit the character. Rolling dice or randomly picking a few of them would be... well, blergh.
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J.G.
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 23:10 PM |
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Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere, anywhere, everywhere, and nowhere.
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HellScourge wrote: http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/DnD_Flaws
You mean this? Contains mostly homebrewn stuff. Quite good though.
Contains other fun stuff too. Some of it unbalanced (Skills that are based on HD and not Class Levels) but overall fun enough. I think I have over half of these. for example: Spamming facts oh! and an intresting one... Quote: Luposlipaphobia- Your worst nightmare is to be chased by timber wolves around a kitchen table on a newly waxed floor while wearing socks. Requirements:A DM with a sense of humor.
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_________________ Gianan Wing - Wandering Priest of Akadi Rente Galenson - Halruaan Wizard
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Jes
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Posted: Mon, Sep 21 2009, 23:54 PM |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Location: Camriiole
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Quote: Flaw: Extreme Nuisance Prerequisite: Played The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Summary: Hey! Look! Listen! Hey! Hey! Look! Listen!
Oh, lord... I just broke my stomach laughing at that...
_________________ Login: The Copper Queen Cromlech - The Best Copper This Side of Ruathym Zelly Cys'dina - The Wounded Soul, Also Merchant Aelynthi Nor'alei - The Bubbly Winged Elf
See me DM-side as: [DM] Hlal | [DM] The Voice
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mairacle_ninja
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 0:02 AM |
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Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Location: Australia
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This came to mind when I saw that one too, Ragi.
_________________ in my dream i am the star. its me
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Yurell
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 0:35 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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fjook wrote: people are alergic to something common in water, so they have to have special type of showers that do not use water, among other things, so I do not see why the phobia of air is that high fetched.
It was on the british news website two-three years ago the allergy thing. I believe it's chlorine. fireprooftroll wrote: Absentminded- Preoccupied to the extent of being unaware of one's immediate surroundings. Abstracted, daydreaming, inattentive, oblivious, forgetful. Jiay fireprooftroll wrote: Immature- Marked by or indicating a lack of maturity; puerile. Naive- Lacking worldly experience and understanding, simple and guileless; showing or characterized by a lack of sophistication and critical judgment. Pacifist- Opposition to war or violence as a means of resolving disputes. (Can double as a merit in certain cases) Amenia fireprooftroll wrote: Arrogant- Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance. Inclined to social exclusiveness and who rebuff the advances of people considered inferior. Snobbish. Bigot- One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. Fanaticism- Fanatic outlook or behavior especially as exhibited by excessive enthusiasm, unreasoning zeal, or wild and extravagant notions on some subject. Hard- A person who is difficult to deal with, manage, control, overcome, or understand. Hard emotions, hard hearted.
Jhaelryna

_________________ 2009's Second Most Overall Contributing Player
يمكنني استخدام مترجم جوجل
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Lally
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 1:15 AM |
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Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Leather chair, USA. Tell me about your mother.
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Koragi Mydnite wrote: Quote: Flaw: Extreme Nuisance Prerequisite: Played The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Summary: Hey! Look! Listen! Hey! Hey! Look! Listen! Oh, lord... I just broke my stomach laughing at that...
I swear to the lord above, I have no idea why in the year 2009, Nintendo still hasn't managed to put freekin vocal dialog in their games.
_________________ We are all here on earth to help others; what on earth the others are here for I don't know.
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mairacle_ninja
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 1:26 AM |
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Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Location: Australia
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But Lally, Link did have a voice actor! 
_________________ in my dream i am the star. its me
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The Incognitos
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 1:41 AM |
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Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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I did not suggest you roll for these! And, if you will pardon my high handed assumptions, most of the characters found in RP games appear as simple two dimensional cut outs. They may have a back story that puts David Copperfield to shame but not many people will read it.
'Racism', 'bigotry' and extremist views are, in a world rife with worker-day divine intervention and industries built on genocide, arguably redundant as major character flaws. I say this because they have little impact on day to day living that isn't absolutely expected.
Something like alcoholism however, would be really quite surprising to see ardently RPed in Cordor. I've never seen a PC stay drunk for a significant period of time, or get drunk every time they get near a bar. This is what I mean by character flaws. Ignore the massive range of phobias and look for something mundane and rare.
What's that they say about a normal human being the most rare of character classes?
_________________ Jess Incognito:- Ah, but the phoenix may fly only when its feathers are grown...
Olaf Grudgebringer: Stroppy Cleric or Morradin
Krunk (Underdark): Stay back! He's a bit mad.
the_incognitos@live.com
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Selmak
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 1:41 AM |
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Joined: 17 Dec 2004
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Hypochondria isn't on the list. That can be pretty funny if it's played well.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 3:58 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Aww, man, flaws in PnP are a DMs worst nightmare... seriously, -2 to ranged AB and -2 to some dumb thig I forget what it is... and I get two free feats? Hell yah. Booyah!
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 4:00 AM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Pfffft. I love flaws that actually make sense and are relevant to a character.
EG; Eary's standard aquaphobia (he's been drowned one too many times, on top of being from a world where expanses of water are -rare-) and lack of social graces (culture shoooock!) gives alot of opportunities for fun in-context.
Random, of fthe wall things that make no sense? Egh. Gimmicks.
_________________ Mostly Retired
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 4:15 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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There's a reason torin's not afraid of spiders anymore, heh.
_________________ Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Yurell
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 4:27 AM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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Ame used to be pyrophobic. This was because the instant she left the Temple of Waukeen for the first time she was killed by a balor rampaging through Cordor.
_________________ 2009's Second Most Overall Contributing Player
يمكنني استخدام مترجم جوجل
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Gunz
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 6:10 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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Pfft! Like I'd tell you my characters flaws, fears and weaknesses! I ain't giving away ammo against my toons for free! 
_________________ My Characters: Yuilith Kethil Menaiivan Garadeth
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The Incognitos
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 7:49 AM |
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Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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Bloody Hell, I forgot we were all William bloody Shakespeare.
Seriously, as I said, the penalties need not apply in a mechanical sense but it would seem that the majority of characters have very little in the way of unique idiosyncratic features.
Obviously every single PC can't have a Frodo-esque mission driving them, and the entire world of Middle-Amia on, though this doesn't seem to be the case according to a goodly amount of backstories.
I was simply suggesting that a minor, RP only flaw could add a measure of flair to an otherwise two dimensional character
_________________ Jess Incognito:- Ah, but the phoenix may fly only when its feathers are grown...
Olaf Grudgebringer: Stroppy Cleric or Morradin
Krunk (Underdark): Stay back! He's a bit mad.
the_incognitos@live.com
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The Peacock
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 9:16 AM |
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Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Location: Patrollink ze borderz! Wo ist das Hahn!?
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Meldrium's flawed like a mother-bitch. He's old and decrepit, juxtaposing his youthful enthusiasm to hunt all Dhaerow. He falls over due to his ridiculously low Dexterity, and his self-worth is also his downfall.
Sounds pretty dynamic to me.
_________________ 'Ze Cock! Ze Cock ist shtill aut der!! Kapitulation feiern - NEIN DANKE!'
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xordae
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 9:29 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Location: Germany
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My characters have like, so many flaws, dude. But only when I'm in a giving mood. 
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FA_Frey_XC
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 11:28 AM |
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Joined: 18 May 2005 Location: XC HQ Alpha, Sol System, Sirius Sector.
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Frey's actually got two very exploitable weaknesses.
*shrugs*
Come find out what they are.
Regards,
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"Come under the flag of truce, and brook no treason... for mineself is Death, and care not whom knows mine touch."
- Frey Asaid'De Majere
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The Incognitos
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 13:13 PM |
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Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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(dictated while stamping around in a rage of misunderstood frustration)
I didn't say all of you!
What got me thinking about it was the fact that my minor PCs have fallen a bit flat for me. I realised they needed more in the way of character dynamic; that is to say I knew what they were when created(back story etc), where I wanted them to end up and a few things they could do along the way. They were missing the developmental 'fluff' that forms the benign image a character has in the minds eye.
That's all, I swear, I didn't want to start a fight.
_________________ Jess Incognito:- Ah, but the phoenix may fly only when its feathers are grown...
Olaf Grudgebringer: Stroppy Cleric or Morradin
Krunk (Underdark): Stay back! He's a bit mad.
the_incognitos@live.com
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The Peacock
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 13:19 PM |
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Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Location: Patrollink ze borderz! Wo ist das Hahn!?
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I wasn't fightin' there Incognitos! I was just raising my self-worth by pointing out how amazing I truly am... Even Frey would have to agree that I am the greatest!  Eh there Frey?
_________________ 'Ze Cock! Ze Cock ist shtill aut der!! Kapitulation feiern - NEIN DANKE!'
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 13:41 PM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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One of Beldor's flaws is kinda close to the magical addiction one from the D&D site.
Perhaps its more out of boredom and a high charisma, but if he goes a long time without casting any magic, he becomes overtly agressive. Kind of a magical/force-of-personality build-up if he doesn't cause some sort of destructive effect every once in a while.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 16:42 PM |
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Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Location: Land of the Scorching Sun, Empowered by Global Warming
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TormakSaber wrote: Aww, man, flaws in PnP are a DMs worst nightmare... seriously, -2 to ranged AB and -2 to some dumb thig I forget what it is... and I get two free feats? Hell yah. Booyah!
They can be fun if used sparsely. Of course, in Amia it will not necessarily work.
For instance, in the PnP campaign that I am playing currently, my sorceress is afraid of half-dragons. This fear would end up making no sense anymore and not even taken seriously given the amount of half-dragons and dragon disciples at Amia.
In the PnP campaign, she almost ruined the spying mission of the group because the half-dragon crossed paths with her and she freaked out.
The reason for that fear? She got it in game when the guy she admires and was protecting got a nearly deadly blow from said half-dragon's heavy flail to the head and... for fun (or effect, who knows?) the half-dragon also killed the poor horse that the PC was mounting by entangling the chain of the heavy flail to the horse's hind legs. >_>;
Oh, yes, the sorceress is only level 4, too.
It was the sheer display of raw strength that got her terrified.
I like giving flaws to my characters, and while they might lose some of them throughout a campaign, there is always the chance they will get new ones.
All my characters have at least a serious one and a minor one.
EDIT to add: I forgot to add that the fear is so strong that she gets a penalty of... -2 to all rolls whenever there is (or would be, since the only one she met is already dead), a half-dragon around. >_>;;
While he was alive, she failed a spellcasting, she missed horribly when shooting an arrow and she also ruined her awesome dress when she ran, tripped and fell at the sight of the half-dragon since she wanted to get out of his sight as fast as possible and preferably before he noticed her.
_________________ BlackDahlya
Once Upon A Time Played Adr'ael Ken'rahel, Auron Teken’ath, Aurora Mesodias, 'Daniel' Daoskinaxarijikkym, Eilin'ira, Helena Rios, Layla Faircurrent, May'Une Do'Ndar, Mellinda Tellus, Michael of Cliffside, Rizzen of Twilight, Valkirya d'Claddath
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Teufel Eldritch
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 16:47 PM |
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Joined: 23 Feb 2006
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Some of the most fun I have had recently is with a character of mine that suffers from a severely debilitating disease. His life revolves around not aggravating his condition.
_________________ YANKEE ROSE -----------------
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Yurell
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Posted: Tue, Sep 22 2009, 22:18 PM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: ANU, behind the coffee mug (+10 GMT)
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One of my favourite things about Amenia is her stammer.
_________________ 2009's Second Most Overall Contributing Player
يمكنني استخدام مترجم جوجل
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