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Selvec Darkon
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 Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 2:11 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Alright, this is odd. I think it's clear to the majority of the player base by now that a certain chicken has a flaming hate for all Asian armor and weapons. But I've just noticed a couple of odd additions to the halberds that contradict this hate.
We have a Glaive and Naginata weapons model added to the hak.
So this begs the question that one must ask themselves. Is Disco's stance changing? Since we have both weapons, perhaps we will see more additions in the future. The most important question of all is this however. Will Disco be dying his hair blue, eating noodles, and squeeing over cartoon men with oversized swords now?
I'm scared.
On a serious note however, where these added by mistake? Or is it just that Disco doesn't know they are Asian weapons and originate in China. Or where they added because there are no real additions in the community to the Halberd without them? They do seem to contradict the stance that no Asian armor and weapons will be added to the module.
That is all.
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I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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Cerpin Taxt
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 2:17 AM |
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Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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kanabo greatsword skin, gogoogog
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ainjyll
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 2:37 AM |
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Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: wilmington, nc
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Wikipedia wrote: A glaive is a European polearm weapon, consisting of a single-edged blade on the end of a pole. It is similar to the Japanese naginata and the Chinese Guan Dao.
Typically, the blade was around 45 cm (18 inches) long, on the end of a pole 2 m (6 or 7 feet) long, and the blade was affixed in a socket-shaft configuration similar to an axe head, rather than having a tang like a sword or naginata. Occasionally glaive blades were created with a small hook on the reverse side to better catch riders. Such blades are called glaive-guisarmes.
According to the 1599 treatise Paradoxes of Defense by the English gentleman George Silver, the glaive is used in the same general manner as the quarterstaff, half pike, bill, halberd, voulge, or partisan. Silver rates this class of polearms above all other individual hand-to-hand combat weapons. Glaive is European, not Asian. _________________  "I once took the high road and it took me straight to hell and I stood there all by myself." -Hank III
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wuhwuhwolves
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 3:11 AM |
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Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: AMERICA, EFF YEAH
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ainjyll wrote: Glaive is European, not Asian. Beat me to it.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 5:16 AM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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I think the few asian-esque looking things in the pak are just things he figured could look good anywhere.
And as much as it might pain him, a few extra models for katana, kama, and kukri would not kill anyone or make the server go japanese. No one's asking for freaking kimonos and geta. Just when about every other weapon model in the game has gotten a few new appearances(barring ranged weapons), it's not that out of place to ask.
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 7:51 AM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Location: Vaasa, Finland
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I just think all that Asian stuff should be avoided. Oh I remember the horrible days when every other character walked around with dual katanas and spoke stereotypical Wapanese one liners from anime movies! "Konnichiwa, kakawaaka chun chun hai matamoto!"
_________________ Characters: Hunar Iroff, The red-bearded, grumpy dwarf with a bastard sword. Chair of Military Issues Daren Sten, High Inquisitor of the Eternal Order of Kelemvor on Amia 
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 7:54 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Those days never existed.
Ever.
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 8:26 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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*Still has his Drow Duel weilding Katana WM.*
And I never knew a glaive was european. Well blow me down. That's what I get for taking Romance of Three Kingdoms as my historical source of chinese history!
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I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 8:31 AM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Glaives can exist in both places....
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 8:33 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Yea, but I the design being so similar is very odd.
I assumed it was fundamentally a Chinese weapon.
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I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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Goblin
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 9:36 AM |
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Joined: 02 Sep 2008
Location: Scotland
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As *rofl-giggle* ~multicultural~ as Amia is, I think folks from the Kara-Tur would be less likely to raise the eyebrow of the locals than say, a big winged purple demon-guy with ~hoofs blacker than night~ and ~eyes that tell the tale of his terrors~. Then again...
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"O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
But take away our pride."
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 12:10 PM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Location: Vaasa, Finland
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TormakSaber wrote: Those days never existed.
Ever. They sure did. Some people just took it harder than others. I'm betting on the mental defence of denial here. _________________ Characters: Hunar Iroff, The red-bearded, grumpy dwarf with a bastard sword. Chair of Military Issues Daren Sten, High Inquisitor of the Eternal Order of Kelemvor on Amia
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ainjyll
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 15:44 PM |
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Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: wilmington, nc
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TormakSaber wrote: Glaives can exist in both places.... Sure they can after enough exploration led the European and Chinese culture's to exchange information. A glaive and a naginata are, in essence, the same thing. A big pointy blade on the end of a big stick. It's not that hard to see why they're pretty common. Almost all races of man had some variation of this idea, be it a spear or something else. _________________ "I once took the high road and it took me straight to hell and I stood there all by myself." -Hank III
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Dwagin
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 16:08 PM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: The Land of Nod
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Herra Tutteri wrote: TormakSaber wrote: Those days never existed.
Ever. They sure did. Some people just took it harder than others. I'm betting on the mental defence of denial here. There were only three PC's I recall having done so with the talking. And ONE in particular you're talking about. If it occurred it was before I came to Amia. I'm going with Tormak on this one.
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Dwagin [Duh-wa-GIN] N. - 1a. Small and cute thingum, particularly fond of four legged scaled creatures of the metalic and chromatic varieties.
-Extraordinarily ordinary in the mostest of ways.
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Silvarus
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 16:11 PM |
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Joined: 23 Sep 2005
Location: Jyväskylä, Finland, Europe
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There is some truth to his words.
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Gagis Silvarna, the Robocop with wings who shoots lasers from his fingertips
Lily Havthorn, the Waukeenar
Silwe, the elf
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 17:04 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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Mind that the specific time hasn't been mentioned, and that you (have) played in a different time zone than Tutteri. Why would he say there was a time with lots of typical Wapanese anime characters, if there really wasn't? Even I can recall many.
_________________  UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 17:32 PM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Location: Vaasa, Finland
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See? My homies are here for me. Cower in phear!
_________________ Characters: Hunar Iroff, The red-bearded, grumpy dwarf with a bastard sword. Chair of Military Issues Daren Sten, High Inquisitor of the Eternal Order of Kelemvor on Amia
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Glyph
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 18:52 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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has been said before but nunchucks. wapan-ia is not going to occur from custom models, and i've not seen a vast, true interest in players creating kara-tur and the like.
I ended up with a third character focusing on bastard swords purely to avoid katana's, a few more weapons here and there, if possible, wouldn't hurt.
hm, that said light flail is pretty much a sort of chuck...uh, which sort of glaive we talking about here? google is showing me halberd style stuff which I thought was a glaive, and also 5 pointed sickly star things, like yuffie from ff7...
ed: naginata = sword tipped spears =) i do approve. that one -is- of asian background.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 19:48 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere
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Uncle-Opustus wrote: Mind that the specific time hasn't been mentioned, and that you (have) played in a different time zone than Tutteri. Why would he say there was a time with lots of typical Wapanese anime characters, if there really wasn't? Even I can recall many. Because there... really wasn't. And I've been here longer than all of you to know.
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Davion Telemos - Monk of the Four Winds
Korthan Isharnos - Dragon Shaman of Thunder Spirit Zamasham
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Herra Tutteri
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 20:21 PM |
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Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Location: Vaasa, Finland
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TormakSaber wrote: Uncle-Opustus wrote: Mind that the specific time hasn't been mentioned, and that you (have) played in a different time zone than Tutteri. Why would he say there was a time with lots of typical Wapanese anime characters, if there really wasn't? Even I can recall many. Because there... really wasn't. And I've been here longer than all of you to know. No you weren't. _________________ Characters: Hunar Iroff, The red-bearded, grumpy dwarf with a bastard sword. Chair of Military Issues Daren Sten, High Inquisitor of the Eternal Order of Kelemvor on Amia
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Grymia
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 20:25 PM |
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004
Location: Kohlingen, and a Basement in Canada
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Actually he has been, Herra, i'm pretty sure anyway.
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 20:34 PM |
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Location: The downeaster "Alexa"
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Gah, for frick's sake, does it matter? Put em back in your pants gentlemen and step away from the measuring tape.
Katana, Kukri, and Kama models. I'll be on the lookout for decent ones that aren't anime-ish and legit. We already have hak alt-models for every melee weapon, except like double-axe, diremace and two-bladed sword.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2010, 21:09 PM |
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Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Finland
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TormakSaber wrote: Because there... really wasn't. And I've been here longer than all of you to know. That's really not relevant in any way to the topic at hand. The point is that the two of you play in seperate time zones and thus cannot simply see everything the other sees. For instance, we had no idea there was Dwarven activity in Barak Runedar, which was before the Barak Runedar forum, meanwhile the Europeans were asleep. We aren't even speaking of any official faction sorta things or some daft Amian fad, but that we both recall a period when there were tonnes of those Asian ninjamen with dualkatanas running around. Besides, why would he say there was a time with lots of typical Wapanese anime characters, if there really wasn't? Well, this is just a silly thing to squabble on, I'm dropping it here, dear. _________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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xXxSuShiKunxXx
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Posted: Sat, Oct 23 2010, 14:59 PM |
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Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Location: H-Town Texas
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TormakSaber wrote: Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Herra Tutteri wrote: Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Anyway.... Uncle-Opustus wrote: That's really not relevant in any way to the topic at hand. The point is that the two of you play in seperate time zones and thus cannot simply see everything the other sees. For instance, we had no idea there was Dwarven activity in Barak Runedar, which was before the Barak Runedar forum, meanwhile the Europeans were asleep.
We aren't even speaking of any official faction sorta things or some daft Amian fad, but that we both recall a period when there were tonnes of those Asian ninjamen with dualkatanas running around. Besides, why would he say there was a time with lots of typical Wapanese anime characters, if there really wasn't? Well, this is just a silly thing to squabble on, I'm dropping it here, dear. ^This. And Im pretty sure Tormie posted in another Kura-tur on how the amian playerbase has come a long way from the anime-char "^_^" spamming players it used to be into a somewhat more mature group. (Save when they argue about stuff >.>) Too lazy to go looking for the quote, so I could very well be wrong... *Hides from smiting hammers of doom* EDIT: Oops. Didn't help the OP at all.... ainjyll wrote: Glaive is European, not Asian. ainjyll wrote: Sure they can after enough exploration led the European and Chinese culture's to exchange information. A glaive and a naginata are, in essence, the same thing. A big pointy blade on the end of a big stick. It's not that hard to see why they're pretty common. Almost all races of man had some variation of this idea, be it a spear or something else. .... Actually, just listen to Ainjyll.... He seems to know what he's talking about when it comes to this stuff...
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Sat, Oct 23 2010, 15:18 PM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Gah, I wasn't asking for Asian stuff, I was just poking fun at Disco's unreasonable hatred...
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I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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xXxSuShiKunxXx
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Posted: Sat, Oct 23 2010, 15:20 PM |
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Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Location: H-Town Texas
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I think Churches chicken is a slightly more irrational fear.  I mean... Have you -had- Churches? Its delicious...
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