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Transcendental Templar
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 Posted: Tue, Feb 15 2011, 22:11 PM |
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Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: Deep within the Fortress of Regrets...
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I want input on the current state of Edonil/the UD. Every player who has something to say about how things stand down there, what needs improvement, and how they'd see that improvement come about should toss me a PM. Your opinions will be treated as beyond top-secret, and I won't disclose them to anyone. I simply want to get a general idea on what UD players think, want, like, and dislike.
I'll be done with exams by this weekend, your opinions and input will help me decide what might need doing/changing once I pick up my client-side activities. You may consider this a survey of sorts, the more opinions I get, the better.
Thank you in advance, and see you in my PM box. No replies here, please.
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"All along the watchtower,
Princes kept the view
While all the women came and went
,bare-foot servants, too.
Outside in the distance
A wild cat did growl,
Two riders were approaching,
The wind began to howl
All along the watchtower!"
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Amadeth
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Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2011, 9:24 AM |
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Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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Heya! First, good luck on the exams you have! Quote: TT: Thanks, all done with those. Edited some stuff out. I've read it, don't worry.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2011, 9:28 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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OMFG. Can you edit away all the IC Information from your post, PLEASE. There's stuff there that some people don't know of, or don't want to know of and SHOULD Not know of.
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2011, 9:42 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Amadeth wrote: Snip PM him dude.
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"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2011, 9:53 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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You think i haven't done that? PM'ed a quote where i underlined and coloured the text i felt appropriate to be removed in RED.
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Transcendental Templar
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Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2011, 10:05 AM |
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Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: Deep within the Fortress of Regrets...
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>.>
I'll just edit it.
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"All along the watchtower,
Princes kept the view
While all the women came and went
,bare-foot servants, too.
Outside in the distance
A wild cat did growl,
Two riders were approaching,
The wind began to howl
All along the watchtower!"
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Estara
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Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2011, 10:16 AM |
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Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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I want to like this thread. That was funny.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2011, 10:25 AM |
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Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Location: Land of the Scorching Sun, Empowered by Global Warming
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hihihihi
Amadeth probably didn't notice what he did. ^^;;
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BlackDahlya
Once Upon A Time Played
Adr'ael Ken'rahel, Auron Teken’ath, Aurora Mesodias, 'Daniel' Daoskinaxarijikkym, Eilin'ira, Helena Rios, Layla Faircurrent, May'Une Do'Ndar, Mellinda Tellus, Michael of Cliffside, Rizzen of Twilight, Valkirya d'Claddath
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Amadeth
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Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2011, 18:05 PM |
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Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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Oh, bugger.. All I can say is that I'm sorry. I meant that as a PM to Tranny. My apologies if I caused any inconvinience with this. That was not my intention.
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Amadeth
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Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2011, 18:10 PM |
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Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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Oh and.. seeing I've made an IC post about some of this stuff as my character before this post, I don't think or at least I hope that nothing dramatic came out of my slip up. It bothers me that I messed this up a bit, but not much was said OoC that isn't known commonly IC by the general public (at least if they keep their eyes and ears open).
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Greyfreth
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Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2011, 20:12 PM |
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Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Location: SC
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Its ok, I'm sure everyone forgives you. I do 
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Ilharess Oloth'chu Tinnerai
Faeryl Freth
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Fri, Feb 25 2011, 4:41 AM |
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Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Location: Land of the Scorching Sun, Empowered by Global Warming
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Greyfreth wrote: Its ok, I'm sure everyone forgives you. I do 
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BlackDahlya
Once Upon A Time Played
Adr'ael Ken'rahel, Auron Teken’ath, Aurora Mesodias, 'Daniel' Daoskinaxarijikkym, Eilin'ira, Helena Rios, Layla Faircurrent, May'Une Do'Ndar, Mellinda Tellus, Michael of Cliffside, Rizzen of Twilight, Valkirya d'Claddath
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GolbezLunar
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Posted: Sat, Feb 26 2011, 21:33 PM |
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Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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Help Get the houses back in order. Encourage Politics by giving township underdark powers to struggle against, a reason for factions to forgive each other or see doom and destruction.
When ever something big happens you see all the players come back out of inactivity.
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I’ve been playing at a new fun sever!
https://theaccursedisland.enjin.com/mobile
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011, 9:18 AM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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How to encourage players from getting out of their inactivity -Without- luring them with a bait?
Gonna break this down for you guys.
You broke the underdark up in two segements - Drow and 'Other underdark races'. You built a city far far away from the main trade port where the 'Other underdark races chill, and expect them to come over to you.
The 'Other underdark races' expect you to come over to them.
Conclusion
Nobody goes any fucking where. For you have successfully split the underdark.
I'm a bit tired of the UD community -Failing- to understand this. You don't need more events, Nor resources. You just need to be on the same place as the rest of the underdarkers and RP -will- flourish.
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Galenson
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Posted: Mon, Feb 28 2011, 8:35 AM |
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Joined: 26 May 2006
Location: Down Under, calculating your demise with blunt expressions.
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Good to see someone agrees with me.
These aren't 2005's summer holidays in Udos Dro'xun: being trapped in the mindset of "Lolth's way or the highway" doesn't work anymore.
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Greyfreth
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Posted: Mon, Feb 28 2011, 11:26 AM |
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Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Location: SC
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Actually it seems like the tolerance and not going lolths way or the highway has participated in the decline this time.
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Ilharess Oloth'chu Tinnerai
Faeryl Freth
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Feb 28 2011, 12:44 PM |
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Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Location: Awarded most Confused Git of 2014!
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Greyfreth wrote: Actually it seems like the tolerance and not going lolths way or the highway has participated in the decline this time. Elaborate.
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Greyfreth
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Posted: Mon, Feb 28 2011, 14:08 PM |
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Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Location: SC
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No steadfast rules of behavior or what's expected of people. What customs are to be observed and what aren't. Who's in charge, who listens to who. What curtesies are non negotiable and which would be nice or don't matter at all. Not going to do a full debate here, not purpose of this thread. You've stated your opinion, I've stated mine, let's leave it at that ok
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Ilharess Oloth'chu Tinnerai
Faeryl Freth
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Bravo21
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Posted: Mon, Feb 28 2011, 18:00 PM |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2008
Location: In the land of liquid sunshine and coffee
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Transcendental Templar wrote: Thank you in advance, and see you in my PM box. No replies here, please.
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Thine taste in horrid footwear not withstanding, I did not say that thou were in fact an idiot, I merely implied that such things were self evident.
-Krrja
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Transcendental Templar
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Posted: Tue, Mar 01 2011, 9:37 AM |
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Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: Deep within the Fortress of Regrets...
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Yep.
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"All along the watchtower,
Princes kept the view
While all the women came and went
,bare-foot servants, too.
Outside in the distance
A wild cat did growl,
Two riders were approaching,
The wind began to howl
All along the watchtower!"
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P Three
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Posted: Tue, Mar 01 2011, 11:29 AM |
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Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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Flame.
Counterflame.
pointless bitching as RP continues to dwindle.
Welcome to status quo.
_________________ Bobo_Underhill wrote: Ley lines, y'all. Just let me go wrangle up my cowboy boots and lasso us up some magic.
Yee-haw! Aly'dra Zau'ana: Priestessish Of EilistraeeDanika Nefzen: Druid of the EarthmotherDelia Am'Anodel: Paladin of Torm
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Estara
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Posted: Tue, Mar 01 2011, 13:38 PM |
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Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Is it bad that I still find this thread funny? I'm horrible... and totally contributing to the pointlessness. Perhaps I'm at least I'm reminding people to look at this thread?
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Selvec Darkon
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Posted: Wed, Mar 02 2011, 0:12 AM |
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Joined: 12 Oct 2005
Location: On a Disk, carried by four elephants, which stand on a gigantic turtle.
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Get in his box!
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I keels u with my axe!
"Do ye know where the Holy-Flamin' Frost-brand Gronk-slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' woundin' an' returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-out-yer-bum is?"
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Signe Johanne
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Posted: Sat, Mar 05 2011, 0:38 AM |
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Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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*rubs hands wickedly and writes a flametastic pm to Tranny!* I'm not sure if you guys agree or not, but here's my two pennies on the current setup (not that I have logged on in ages). Edonil doesn't seem to have a soul, whereas Udos and Ultrinnan did. I can't put my finger on it, but I could not locate a "city soul". I'm not sure if this is because those drow who were active at the time had to find such a remote location, or if the DMs were unable to communicate with the drow playerbase about the possibilities of L'Obsul, but I think location and the sheer -massiveness- of the city is really dragging rp down. In a zomghuge city, three people RPing is kind of lame. 
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thelongforgottenhero
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Posted: Sat, Mar 12 2011, 20:39 PM |
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Joined: 23 Apr 2010
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We want a notise board: where you can read and print short messages!! yeaa.... something like: We rule!
*sage nod*
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soundofastream
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Posted: Thu, Apr 07 2011, 19:06 PM |
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Joined: 21 Sep 2007
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I think, like the Druids do for Amia Forest, we need to make L'Obsul's main tavern on Jas, the RP hub. To that effect, if all players, epics especially, gather there, then its more likely, even drow from Edonil, will go there, looking for RP.
I too, don't like the fact that the Drow decided to hive off with their own city, thus splitting the underdark rp in half, but it is what it is. There's no rule saying they can't come to L'obsul though, for RP but unless we have a dedicated RP hub, with dedicated "Other race" Underdarkers meeting there most days for RP, there's no incentive for them to come visit.
There's also a real mechanical/balance problem in that you get more for less, on the surface. So for instance, you can fight Duergar, in the UD, who are tougher than She-Kats and give less XP, OR you can go and easily slaughter spiders up there, and get well over 40xp per kill. This creates a mechanical disincentive, to adventure in the Underdark.
There's a big gap in the Underdark, between levels 12 to 15, for adventuring (without a party) so there needs to be something between the Duergar and Cave Creepers for people to go through, in level progression. There's also a serious lack of epic areas, other than the Contested Caves, pushing you once again, to the surface lands.
There could be an epic underwater zone, that links to Olog's (Troll caves) fishing platform, that could link to Sahuagin and Kuo-toan areas. That'd be fun and give Underdarkers a chance to access more epic adventure areas...you don't even need to build a separate Sahuagin area, just add an underwater portal to the existing area...
I personally, would like to see the Kuo-toans, made into an epic foe, on part with Sahuagin or Firegiants (the low level epic range).
There needs also, to be some hidden shops or epic shops or something, buried deep in some hidden vault in the UD to give us access to some unique UD specific gear (our equivalent of the Gauntlet or Abyss store?).
Some hidden areas down here, would also be nice...perhaps a puzzle that needs to be solved, to access it? Or maybe a quest....
And scrolls! We have to venture to the surface, IF we want better scrolls...(Mystran tower shop), why?
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Elithiel Issatheerin (Shadow Elf) She who Lurks
Isolia Oussea'lylth (Sun Elf) Apprentice Wizardess
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Gondor
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Posted: Thu, Apr 07 2011, 19:18 PM |
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Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Location: Belgium
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Bravo21 wrote: Transcendental Templar wrote: Thank you in advance, and see you in my PM box. No replies here, please. _________________ "Unite with the essence of your blade, forge your mind and make it strong, for a blade breaks as fast as it's wielder."
Lo'milmar Cil'in, the Path of Athiyk'VElve
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Quarter_From_Nothing
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Posted: Thu, Apr 07 2011, 19:24 PM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2009
Location: Finland (GMT +2)
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soundofastream wrote: There's no rule saying they can't come to L'obsul though Just as there is no rule against other UD:ers in Edonil bar (Iniquity) which we even encourage others to come. You might have RP to not to come there, but so some drow have RP not to come to L'obsul. Quote: There's also a real mechanical/balance problem in that you get more for less, on the surface. So for instance, you can fight Duergar, in the UD, who are tougher than She-Kats and give less XP, OR you can go and easily slaughter spiders up there, and get well over 40xp per kill. This creates a mechanical disincentive, to adventure in the Underdark. No one said UD is kindergarden. If your character finds it in RP sense better to go to the (lorewise scary) surface, then why doesn't he do that? You van level to max in the UD. It's fine as it is. Quote: There's also a serious lack of epic areas, other than the Contested Caves, pushing you once again, to the surface lands. You go there just for the loots, and nothing tells you to haul loots. If your char is mostly in the UD or wants to stay in UD, but "needs epic loot" I find no flaw in finding "rare and powerful" loots from surface, that are (should be) different from the items found in UD. It works' just fine. We don't want epic loot grinders to UD, we want RPers. *wink* Quote: There could be an epic underwater zone, that links to Olog's (Troll caves) fishing platform, that could link to Sahuagin and Kuo-toan areas. That'd be fun and give Underdarkers a chance to access more epic adventure areas...you don't even need to build a separate Sahuagin area, just add an underwater portal to the existing area... I don't like the idea. Quote: There needs also, to be some hidden shops or epic shops or something, buried deep in some hidden vault in the UD to give us access to some unique UD specific gear (our equivalent of the Gauntlet or Abyss store?). To this I agree. But maybe there is already and you just don't know. Quote: Some hidden areas down here, would also be nice... I like the idea a lot, and would give my support to this. Natural occuring caves taht are hard to access, of man made hidden ones either way. Quote: perhaps a puzzle that needs to be solved, to access it? Or maybe a quest.... No. Quote: And scrolls! We have to venture to the surface, IF we want better scrolls...(Mystran tower shop), why? There is no major arcane faction / thingy in the UD. Also, you can ask wizards to make scrolls. There are plenty of those in UD.
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Gondor
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Posted: Thu, Apr 07 2011, 20:21 PM |
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Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Location: Belgium
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The intention of Templar was surely not to start yet again a not-so-new-at-all-discussion.
And if you're so eager, please use another thread.
_________________ "Unite with the essence of your blade, forge your mind and make it strong, for a blade breaks as fast as it's wielder."
Lo'milmar Cil'in, the Path of Athiyk'VElve
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Estara
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Posted: Thu, Apr 07 2011, 22:12 PM |
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Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Or use PMs, like the OP stated!
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