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Fennewald!
 
PostPosted: Mon, Jan 16 2017, 15:57 PM 

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It was seven or eight years back. The lead house worked with Ghaunadaur to spread plague through the city, and when it got out, there was civil war. Eventually there were earthquakes and the city flooded. I think it's still in the module as a hostile area.

It was around the time Disco added the new underdark on B, so I think that was the prime OOC factor. The remaining houses built a new city there, but that too is now kaput.


 
      
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I never liked those changes :/ But to late to complain now! It is what it is.

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Is it possible to request +6 AB gloves as a non-monk, theoretically? (I know it is a terrible idea, but is it allowed?)


 
      
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They're in the game already. Just buy them for 100k or whatever.

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Don't they have Use limitaion: Monk on them?


 
      
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Not to my knowledge.

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Ok, thanks then. Thought all gloves were monk only for some reason.


 
      
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No, the +6 ab just eats up power slots.

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robbi320 wrote:
Ok, thanks then. Thought all gloves were monk only for some reason.


Pretty much all of them are monk restricted, except from what I'm hearing the +6 arn't?

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The +6 ones are also monk restricted.


 
      
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I have this edgy concept, of a evil aligned character who "do what is necessary" to defeat evil. A necromancer or similar, who gone the extra step, he or she is twisted but openly against forces of evil, fighting fire with fire. Such a concept would of course NOT be welcomed among much of the good or neutral forces of Amia should it use necromancy in any shape.

I just wonder how such a concept can be appliable? Do Evil Alignment mean = You are evil, you cannot fight other evil for a "good" cause. Or is it possible?

Now when I mention Necromancers I think of the Necromancer faction in Dark Messiah who [spoiler] wishes to stop the summoning of this prophecy demon [/spoiler]

EDIT: Well that spoiler is not working.

Anyway, do evil always be the chuckling, mustache twirling kind of evil just to do evil? Or can we break the pattern?

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Evil, as good and neutral, is what you make of it. You can be an evil character who is opposed to other heinous acts. In fact anti-necromancer evil chars are quite common.

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Evil, as good and neutral, is what you make of it. You can be an evil character who is opposed to other heinous crimes. In fact anti-necromancer evil chars are quite common.


Okay, Cause I think of one who takes it a step further, feeling nothing bad for the "good forces" and think Kohlingen and it's knights would be worthy good doers but thinking they are to soft on the bad. Crazy vigilante necromancer/something

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Neutral is the way to go for that character then, id say.

LN due to what seems to be an established set of mental codes.

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Budly wrote:
OpenTheRift wrote:
Evil, as good and neutral, is what you make of it. You can be an evil character who is opposed to other heinous crimes. In fact anti-necromancer evil chars are quite common.


Okay, Cause I think of one who takes it a step further, feeling nothing bad for the "good forces" and think Kohlingen and it's knights would be worthy good doers but thinking they are to soft on the bad. Crazy vigilante necromancer/something

Could work fine. Evil might fit depending on how far they go, but may just be what commie said too.

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Commie wrote:
Neutral is the way to go for that character then, id say.

LN due to what seems to be an established set of mental codes.


No justice for the wicked, out right cold murder is LN?

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Either way, thanks for the answers! I will think about it. :)

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Budly wrote:
Commie wrote:
Neutral is the way to go for that character then, id say.

LN due to what seems to be an established set of mental codes.


No justice for the wicked, out right cold murder is LN?


Neutral is a pretty broad alignment. I'd say what you described is LN

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Commie wrote:
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Commie wrote:
Neutral is the way to go for that character then, id say.

LN due to what seems to be an established set of mental codes.


No justice for the wicked, out right cold murder is LN?


Neutral is a pretty broad alignment. I'd say what you described is LN


I start with that then!

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Whens the best time to find a DM online? I just need to have a couple levels redone on a character on which I made a mistake. Living in the UK so trying to find a DM on can be quite challenging due to timezones.


 
      
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Whens the best time to find a DM online? I just need to have a couple levels redone on a character on which I made a mistake. Living in the UK so trying to find a DM on can be quite challenging due to timezones.

Around 8pm our time onwards usually. Maybe earlier some days.

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If it is a several level re-do, you'll also have to make a request first, I'm afraid.

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Budly wrote:
OpenTheRift wrote:
Crazy vigilante necromancer/something


Chaotic is the realm of taking the law into your own hands, outside an established code of conduct or police body. Lawful if you're being batman. Chaotic if you decide to use ethics not accepted by society, but dark powers like undead are below Good.

Does that help?

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DukeDublin wrote:
Budly wrote:
OpenTheRift wrote:
Crazy vigilante necromancer/something


Chaotic is the realm of taking the law into your own hands, outside an established code of conduct or police body. Lawful if you're being batman. Chaotic if you decide to use ethics not accepted by society, but dark powers like undead are below Good.

Does that help?


It helps, but mass murdering their minions and kidnapping their loved once, sending body parts back KGB legend style to have them release the victims they got kidnapped themself do sound kinda of evil to me :mrgreen: Not that I ever do that...promise.

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The big question is if the character cares about the people they are harming along the way. When I say care I don't mean cry feels. Consider how they reflect upon their own actions, if they believe they are above the consequences.

Indifference tells of the brash, or apathy.
Sorrow tells of the regretful, or filled with self-hatred.
Hatred tells of the vengeful, or a lack of justification for impulses.

Or basically refer to your local Shar Guidebook on killing.

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DukeDublin wrote:
The big question is if the character cares about the people they are harming along the way. When I say care I don't mean cry feels. Consider how they reflect upon their own actions, if they believe they are above the consequences.

Indifference tells of the brash, or apathy.
Sorrow tells of the regretful, or filled with self-hatred.
Hatred tells of the vengeful, or a lack of justification for impulses.

Or basically refer to your local Shar Guidebook on killing.


That is a good question. I presume starting on neutral would be good. Then we see where it goes.

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If I'm a level 10 wizard (pre-epic) and then I start taking all my PM levels, will I ever reach level 9 spells?

I know I get epic spells at level 15 PM no matter what, but I'm worried about my spellcasting. :/


 
      
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Need 17 Wizard levels for 9th level spells. PM gets 1 Caster level every odd level.

So 17 - 10 wizard = 7
7 * 2 = 14 Pale Master levels


 
      
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Arkun wrote:
If I'm a level 10 wizard (pre-epic) and then I start taking all my PM levels, will I ever reach level 9 spells?

I know I get epic spells at level 15 PM no matter what, but I'm worried about my spellcasting. :/

Sadly as a pale master most of your spells are going to be a bit weak.

That's how the class is, sacrificing casting power for defensive power


 
      
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Oh, I know my overall spells are going to be weak if it's not necromancy because of the CL - I was mostly worried about not getting 9th level spells. I am a bad character builder and let my paranoia get the best of me. :D

Spamming horrid wilting is the way to go anyway.


 
      
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So, bit of an odd question. When it comes to half-dragons, there is an extreme lack of information on HOW they are born? My guess is probably dependent on which is the dragon parent? Normal mammal birth with a dragon father and perhaps from an egg with a dragon mother? This has always confused me. XD

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I hereby declare that all half-dragons are born from eggs!

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I hereby declare that all half-dragons are born from eggs!


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Terallis wrote:
So, bit of an odd question. When it comes to half-dragons, there is an extreme lack of information on HOW they are born? My guess is probably dependent on which is the dragon parent? Normal mammal birth with a dragon father and perhaps from an egg with a dragon mother? This has always confused me. XD


This is my guess, yeah. Depends on the parent.

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TormakSaber wrote:
Terallis wrote:
So, bit of an odd question. When it comes to half-dragons, there is an extreme lack of information on HOW they are born? My guess is probably dependent on which is the dragon parent? Normal mammal birth with a dragon father and perhaps from an egg with a dragon mother? This has always confused me. XD


This is my guess, yeah. Depends on the parent.




I always thought that since dragons are extremely magickal that they could carry the baby to term in their assumed form and hopefully the other parent knows and expects a cross breed


 
      
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lilmarcat wrote:
Need 17 Wizard levels for 9th level spells. PM gets 1 Caster level every odd level.

So 17 - 10 wizard = 7
7 * 2 = 14 Pale Master levels


I wrote this going to bed and forgot to account for the odd levels part. Its actually 13 PM you need.


 
      
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Fennewald! wrote:
It was seven or eight years back. The lead house worked with Ghaunadaur to spread plague through the city, and when it got out, there was civil war. Eventually there were earthquakes and the city flooded. I think it's still in the module as a hostile area.
It was around the time Disco added the new underdark on B, so I think that was the prime OOC factor. The remaining houses built a new city there, but that too is now kaput.

This is correct.
The 1st House Baenre was DM-controlled, appearing as a foreign canon house to settle a new branch in the city who ended up quickly taking power. I have no idea what DM it was since I think a few were involved in the Ultrinnan plot that came about primarily to move the Underdark onto B. Said civil war happened in like a day when people found out why the Wyrmling Plague was happening after months (Baenre being heretics) and the earthquakes were caused via spells or divine intervention (Lolth? Ghaunadaur?) or something during the infighting that produced a cave-in. Shortly after House Baenre was dethroned in the resolved civil war the ocean flooded the whole city from the cave-in.
So, pretty much a similar story as the fall of every other drowtown. :lol:

From Amiawiki, "Ultrinnan was established after the collapse of Udos Dro'xun and was hidden more deeply and securely in the caverns beneath Amia than was the previous settlement.
A plague ravished the city of Ultrinnan for many months before it was discovered that the then-First House Baenre was responsible. In a coup d'état Baenre was overthrown, their members declared heretics, and a civil war began within Ultrinnan, that was only resolved shortly before the city itself was destroyed."


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Terallis wrote:
So, bit of an odd question. When it comes to half-dragons, there is an extreme lack of information on HOW they are born? My guess is probably dependent on which is the dragon parent? Normal mammal birth with a dragon father and perhaps from an egg with a dragon mother? This has always confused me. XD

OPINION: Unfortunately as funny as it would be half-dragons are implied to be rarely born from female mothers. I have no idea if this means they can be born via egg or not.
Personally I would assume not but I know various dragon mother situations have been done before plenty on Amia so I guess that's how it is for our setting. My own opinion is simpy that humans are not magical like dragons are and half-dragons look far more human-like than dragonborn do (who are born from eggs). I recall reading threads on the forums discussing this topic a few times.
Some others were of the opinion that the way polymorphing or however dragons shift works should prevent the pregnancy from carrying over meaning they'd have to stay in the form for the duration of the pregnancy. I can't remember the lore on shifting off the top of my head to verify if this theory makes sense at all. If that's untrue, another possibility other than eggs is that the female dragon simply changes back to the race she's birthing when she goes into labour. :wink:

SOURCE: The canon source implies it could go either way from Dragon Magazine #284 stating,
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The dragon parent of a half-dragon tends to be male, although female dragons have been known to take mortal lovers and give birth to half-dragon children, particularly good female dragons who have assumed mortal form to be with a beloved partner.
https://dnd.rem.uz/Dragon%20Magazine/25 ... %23284.pdf, pg 29

This same page also covers why RDDs are far more alignment locked than half-dragons who have plenty free will in how they turn out depending on circumstances. Circumstances mean chromatics are still likely to be evil just because half-dragons chromatics especially are rarely born without reason. It's a great article for all dragon lore lovers, honestly.

AMIA: Based on previously approved characters and discussions, it appears female dragon mothers are capable of giving birth via egg or being shifted and are able to shift inbetween forms without disrupting the pregnancy in our setting unless DMs say otherwise. BECAUSE MAAAAGIC!

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Ultrinnan's destruction was railroaded to get Drow to B. That's all.

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Hello folks,

I recently acquired a suit of Mithril Full Plate armour (the job system crafted kind) but certain locations seem to be locked in appearance and it says something like "Current part:0 (33) and when I try to change it, it just repeats that message.

As of writing its the Pelvis, Thighs and Shin locations won't change appearance any work around for this?

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It's because it uses an appearance that's not in the crafting system iirc.
You can get around it by merging another type of plate on it trough the crafting system and taking that item's appearance.

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Gravemaskin wrote:
It's because it uses an appearance that's not in the crafting system iirc.
You can get around it by merging another type of plate on it trough the crafting system and taking that item's appearance.


How do I do this? I don't see any "merge" options on the crafting menu just colours and appearance (neither has a merge option I can see?)

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It's the appearance one. You first place in one armor then the other, and you should get the option to copy the appearance or colors of the second onto the first. I just called it merge because I'm pretty sure it eats up the second armor.. so it's a merger.

It needs to be done on the armorer bench tied to the job system btw. You can't do it from just the radial wheel's crafting menu.

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And should only be attempted by someone with ranks in the armoursmith job. Otherwise you risk losing the armour entirely.

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Gravemaskin wrote:
It's the appearance one. You first place in one armor then the other, and you should get the option to copy the appearance or colors of the second onto the first. I just called it merge because I'm pretty sure it eats up the second armor.. so it's a merger.

It needs to be done on the armorer bench tied to the job system btw. You can't do it from just the radial wheel's crafting menu.


Worked a treat thank you very much, learned something new today ;)

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Is Amia always this huggy around necromancer and demonic beings as it been tonight?

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Budly wrote:
Is Amia always this huggy around necromancer and demonic beings as it been tonight?


depends on context.

at tonight's pvp thing specifically you got some known pvp slayers saying they will slay anyone who starts shit/breaks the rules (then that happened), and clearly didn't think summoning an undead was much of a problem, so most people just rolled with it and let the undead/demons hang out because they wanted to participate/spectate and the demons/undead weren't doing anything wrong, as per the tourny rules anyway.

just my 2 cents though. bring it up ic if you want, it's better discussed there. people have reasons.

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Commie wrote:
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Is Amia always this huggy around necromancer and demonic beings as it been tonight?


depends on context.

at tonight's pvp thing specifically you got some known pvp slayers saying they will slay anyone who starts shit/breaks the rules (then that happened), and clearly didn't think summoning an undead was much of a problem, so most people just rolled with it and let the undead/demons hang out because they wanted to participate/spectate and the demons/undead weren't doing anything wrong, as per the tourny rules anyway.

just my 2 cents though. bring it up ic if you want, it's better discussed there. people have reasons.


The problem is, it is very ooc to ignore that some dude spawns the dead or demons. Do people understand that Lawful good, and any good..especially paladins and such...cannot just ignore it "cause ooc" or "some monk peace". What fucked up non evil monks allow this anyway?

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bring it up ic if you want, it's better discussed there. people have reasons.

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TormakSaber wrote:
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bring it up ic if you want, it's better discussed there. people have reasons.


It is OOC to ignore it. It is a ooc issue. Not an IC issue that good people have "fun" dueling some evil doer.

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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 2:25 AM 

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It's not OOC to ignore something IC. It's exactly the opposite.

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