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I've experienced lately some major lag. Both servers. Sometimes it takes even 10 seconds for my toon to respond on the commands. For example while hunting i click on the monster, and than I am waiting for 5-10 seconds to see what happened in speed motion. Also when I am not hunting, it happens that I run someplace and 5 seconds later, I am teleported to the starting position. I never had the trouble with lag before. I tested my speed while in nwn and it was normal. Is this has something to do with the third hak update and is there anyone else who has this problem?

EDIT: And it just happened to me on Amia B. I am completly frozen in the entry area and cannot move or anything. It kicks me out of the game for no reason, servers sometimes don't show up. Sometimes my toons don't show up. Sometimes they do. Completly random.

I had problems similar to this before the server move and before I switched ISP's. I really don't know what to do to help.

Disco might have some helpful advice. Or he may ask you some questions about your comp/OS/connection/etc to try and help recommend a solution.

I've heard something about "critical rebuild" one guy did once when he had epic lags like me now. But dunno what that is.

The critical rebuild is the 1.69 patch.

Do a fresh install of NWN and remove all overrides and old hak packs. Patch it via the critical rebuild route, and then download and install the amia haks and overrides. Make sure you got the latest GPU drivers as well.

If that fails go back and figure out what changed on your side.

A lot of times a defrag of your harddrive can help do wonders to help lower your lag.

Close Utorrent.

Do haks from other servers (BoB) interfere with Amia haks?
Sorry, I just don't know enough about this stuff.

Not playing on other servers. Anyway, this happened to everyone last night. It's not going all the time, but it never happened before. I'll try with disco's.

I've been getting epic lag at 10am EST for the last two days. I've taken that as a hint that I need to sleep since I work nights. But it's been really bad lag, like I can't see the spawns or my party moving but the chat log and the combat log keep going, though.

Make notes of which server it happens on, how many people were playing at the time, etc. Just stating "I have lag" doesn't get us anywhere near a solution if it's something on this side.

well this escalated from 15 to 30 seconds of lag. it was alright for some time until today when i installed new hak pack.

3:00 pm GMT+1
Amia Island 29/65
Amia Abroad 15/65

Playing on A.
Some other players complained too.

EDIT: later it worked just fine.

We have a backup program running, it may have been that.

I get delays in the gamespy server list. Amia will show with pings around ~50 and other times it'll stay at -1 and the server won't refresh. It takes several tries to successfully connect to either server in that case.

Try to do a tracert on the server when this happens. Hickups like this could be caused by about anything.

xordae wrote:

I get delays in the gamespy server list. Amia will show with pings around ~50 and other times it'll stay at -1 and the server won't refresh. It takes several tries to successfully connect to either server in that case.

Yes same issues here. What is tracert?

It's a command in your DOS box. Just pop up that little black box from Accessories and type "tracert www.amiaworld.net" without the quotes.

I bet this is some Gamespy issue, though, especially if the forums give you no problems.

even the forums were lagging badly for me, yesterday. seem to have no problems with it so far today.

Dev Disco wrote:

We have a backup program running, it may have been that.

I bet this is it. Usually when I have been playing there has been no lag whatsoever, but every now and then there is a huge spike for a short while, regardless of player count.

Dev Disco wrote:

It's a command in your DOS box. Just pop up that little black box from Accessories and type "tracert http://www.amiaworld.net" without the quotes.

I bet this is some Gamespy issue, though, especially if the forums give you no problems.

Type it into Command Prompt.

When I run a tracert to the server, I get a whole bunch of time-outs afer about 10 normal hops.

Can you copy/paste the stuff here? You get the edit options by right-clicking the title bar of the dos screen.

1 Noes mah IP
2 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms dD5E0C001.access.telenet.be [213.224.192.1]
3 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms dD5E0FD51.access.telenet.be [213.224.253.81]
4 9 ms 9 ms 7 ms dD5E0FDDD.access.telenet.be [213.224.253.221]
5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms interoute.bnix.net [194.53.172.126]
6 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms PO6-0.bru-leu-access-1001.interoute.net [212.23.
41.73]
7 20 ms 23 ms 19 ms xe-1-2-0-0.lon-004-score-1-re0.interoute.net [21
2.23.41.86]
8 29 ms 199 ms 199 ms dc-server-2.adam.psi.com [195.81.245.2]
9 23 ms 19 ms 19 ms PO9-0.rtm-vla-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.41.
201]
10 30 ms 24 ms 25 ms 217.118.121.134
11 26 ms 26 ms 32 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
12 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
13 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
14 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
15 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
16 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
17 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
18 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
19 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
20 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
21 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
22 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
23 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
24 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
25 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
26 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
27 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
28 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
29 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.
30 * * * Time-out bij opdracht.

Mine has only timeouts after that last one too (that last one is #20 for me, though).

Tracing route to http://www.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 23 ms 30 ms 29 ms bras1.fra.qsc.de [213.148.133.203]
3 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms core1.fra.qsc.de [87.234.12.237]
4 28 ms 28 ms 35 ms 20ge-decix.r1.fra2.de.as5580.net [80.81.194.66]

5 28 ms 38 ms 30 ms 10ge-r1.ams5.nl.as5580.net [80.94.64.117]
6 36 ms 30 ms 68 ms 20ge-r1.ams2.nl.as5580.net [80.94.64.126]
7 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms 1ge-grafix.r1.ams2.nl.as5580.net [78.152.63.22]

8 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.26]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
...
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

8 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.26]

This one is the network of the building our server is in. I guess they have put a ping/tracert blocker on it, which seems to be some standard security thing these days. 32 ms is very nice, though.

Yes, at the times when lag goes to the point that I have to exit nwn trough task menager, forum is giving me troubles aswell. I tested immediatelly some other sites but they were working just fine.

Tracing route to www.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 16 ms 23 ms 23 ms 77.105.0.229
2 18 ms 23 ms * catalyst-12t.sezampro.yu [77.105.0.222]
3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 77.105.1.250
4 18 ms 23 ms 11 ms sezampro-bcn.telekom.yu [195.178.34.5]
5 54 ms 47 ms 47 ms 20ge-decix.r1.fra2.de.as5580.net [80.81.194.66]

6 * 51 ms 47 ms 10ge-r1.ams1.nl.as5580.net [80.94.64.73]
7 67 ms 71 ms 71 ms 10ge-r1.ams2.nl.as5580.net [80.94.64.122]
8 66 ms 71 ms 59 ms 1ge-grafix.r1.ams2.nl.as5580.net [78.152.63.22]

9 * 55 ms 59 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.26]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

I got to 13, heh.

kin i haz a cookie fer teh haiest numburz, den?

Tracing route to http://www.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms (you no get to see dis one)
2 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.190.224.1
3 8 ms 10 ms 8 ms 96-34-76-16.static.unas.sc.charter.com [96.34.76.16]
4 16 ms 11 ms 10 ms 96-34-76-22.static.unas.sc.charter.com [96.34.76.22]
5 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms 24-216-26-14.cbn.unas.ky.charter.com [24.216.26.14]
6 24 ms 23 ms 22 ms dca-edge-18.inet.qwest.net [63.146.1.121]
7 106 ms 99 ms 97 ms ldn-core-02.inet.qwest.net [67.14.6.158]
8 98 ms 96 ms 111 ms ldn-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [65.120.24.42]
9 98 ms 111 ms 97 ms ge-0-2-0-0.lonth-inter-2.interoute.net [195.66.226.53]
10 105 ms 105 ms 111 ms dc-server-14.adam.psi.com [195.81.245.14]
11 117 ms 123 ms 112 ms PO9-0.rtm-vla-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.41.201]
12 140 ms 147 ms 154 ms 217.118.121.134
13 144 ms 107 ms 109 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Yurell wrote:

Mine has only timeouts after that last one too (that last one is #20 for me, though).

Soz Khy, cookie goes to Yurell ;(

Last edited by Yurell on Wed, Jun 02 2010, 4:37 AM, edited 1 time in total.

Yannickbl wrote:

Yurell wrote:

Mine has only timeouts after that last one too (that last one is #20 for me, though).

Soz Khy, cookie goes to Yurell ;(

No, no, that's after that last one (which is what everyone has) ... I still have 314 ms up to there, though, so cookie is mine anyway (and that's because I'm on a good connexion atm)

Quote:

Tracing route to http://www.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms (Not seeing this one!)
2 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms (Or this one)
3 250 ms <1 ms <1 ms gigabitethernet1.er1.anu.cpe.aarnet.net.au [202.
158.201.233]
4 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms ge-1-0-9.bb1.b.cbr.aarnet.net.au [202.158.201.22
5]
5 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms ge-0-0-0.bb1.a.cbr.aarnet.net.au [202.158.194.20
1]
6 9 ms 5 ms 4 ms so-0-1-0.bb1.a.syd.aarnet.net.au [202.158.194.42
]
7 163 ms 163 ms 163 ms so-2-2-0.bb1.a.pao.aarnet.net.au [202.158.194.17
4]
8 163 ms 195 ms 163 ms ge-11-0-5.mpr1.pao1.us.above.net [64.124.200.213
]
9 164 ms 202 ms 164 ms ge-4-2-0.mpr1.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.31.66]
10 164 ms 164 ms 165 ms xe-0-3-0.cr1.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.30.117]
11 244 ms 243 ms 243 ms xe-3-0-0.cr1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.25.5]
12 243 ms 243 ms 243 ms xe-1-1-0.er1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.26.162]
13 243 ms 243 ms 243 ms gi3-0.nyc-002-inter-1.interoute.net [198.32.160.
102]
14 311 ms 311 ms 311 ms Gi7-0.nyc-002-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.43.
137]
15 312 ms 312 ms 311 ms PO6-0.lon-001-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.43.
150]
16 311 ms 312 ms 332 ms xe-1-3-0-0.lon-001-score-1-re1.interoute.net [84
.233.218.178]
17 311 ms 311 ms 311 ms dc-server-14.adam.psi.com [195.81.245.14]
18 311 ms 311 ms 311 ms PO9-0.rtm-vla-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.41.
201]
19 313 ms 312 ms 312 ms 217.118.121.134
20 314 ms 313 ms 313 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.9]
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

....hokay, you can haz cookie, Yurell.

Pansy Yurell.

*Steals the cookie*

Selvec's Slow ass Internet wrote:

Tracing route to mail.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms mygateway1.ar7 [10.1.1.1]
2 36 ms 37 ms 36 ms 219-89-61-1.dialup.xtra.co.nz [219.89.61.1]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 79 ms 61 ms 56 ms ae4-10.akbr5.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.244.2
21]
5 55 ms 53 ms 56 ms ae1-2.akbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.77
]
6 91 ms 92 ms 92 ms ae1-10.tkbr9.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.3
7]
7 189 ms 181 ms 189 ms so6-1-1.labr5.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.127.
62]
8 193 ms 190 ms 200 ms so0-0-1.lebr6.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.
98]
9 217 ms 217 ms 259 ms 217.6.51.193
10 367 ms 368 ms 367 ms 217.239.40.181
11 372 ms 395 ms 375 ms 193.159.227.54
12 366 ms 370 ms 371 ms ae0-0.fra-006-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
207.93]
13 411 ms 391 ms 406 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
190.49]
14 392 ms 404 ms 346 ms Gi7-0-0.ams-koo-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.4
1.142]
15 345 ms 367 ms 341 ms PO10-0.rtm-vla-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.41
.205]
16 398 ms 397 ms 433 ms 217.118.121.134
17 367 ms 369 ms 367 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.26]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Yeah, you win. That will teach me for using my university internet and not my standard one:

Quote:

Tracing route to www.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 143 ms 149 ms 149 ms 210.87.21.233
5 138 ms 159 ms 299 ms te3-3.sglebdist01.aapt.net.au [203.131.60.38]
6 129 ms 148 ms 229 ms te0-3-4-0.sglebcore01.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.7]
7 179 ms 849 ms 149 ms te2-2.sclardist02.aapt.net.au [202.10.12.4]
8 139 ms 159 ms 149 ms te3-1.sclarbrdr01.aapt.net.au [202.10.14.5]
9 179 ms 159 ms 159 ms xe7-0-0-320.sybr5.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.238.213]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 321 ms 370 ms 348 ms 217.6.51.193
14 1467 ms 739 ms 749 ms 217.239.40.181
15 639 ms 709 ms 710 ms 193.159.227.54
16 708 ms 779 ms 859 ms ae0-0.fra-006-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.207.93]
17 767 ms 769 ms 789 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.190.49]
18 688 ms 780 ms 769 ms Gi7-0-0.ams-koo-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.41.142]
19 638 ms 719 ms 719 ms PO10-0.rtm-vla-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.41.205]
20 656 ms 719 ms 798 ms 217.118.121.134
21 676 ms 711 ms 709 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.26]
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Woots, that's a 'nice' ping!

Anyway, please do this if you have one of these hickup moments...

1. note down the time and convert it to GMT+1
2. do a tracert
3. check if it's both forum and GS and make a note of it
4. note down the amount of players on both servers
5. post all of that here

16:07 GMT+1
19/65
1/65

Both forum and game are lagging, other players complain, some players crashing.
I was playing on A.

Tracing route to http://www.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 13 ms 23 ms 23 ms 77.105.0.231
2 18 ms 23 ms 23 ms catalyst-12t.sezampro.yu [77.105.0.222]
3 18 ms 23 ms 23 ms 77.105.1.250
4 42 ms 23 ms 23 ms sezampro-bcn.telekom.yu [195.178.34.5]
5 54 ms 47 ms 47 ms 20ge-decix.r1.fra2.de.as5580.net [80.81.194.66]

6 54 ms 59 ms 47 ms 10ge-r1.ams1.nl.as5580.net [80.94.64.73]
7 54 ms 47 ms 47 ms 10ge-r1.ams2.nl.as5580.net [80.94.64.122]
8 54 ms 59 ms 59 ms 1ge-grafix.r1.ams2.nl.as5580.net [78.152.63.22]

9 54 ms 59 ms 59 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.26]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Well, that's not a problem with the connection itself, 54 ms is fine. Keep posting, I am running a logger.

I'm getting a lot of lag lately, and I know of a few others who are, too. Mind you, this occurred after I got a lot overrides. I'll try renaming the folder and see if that helps.

Server is lagging bigstyle! Been like it for about an hour or so now.

Last edited by Dwagin on Wed, Jul 07 2010, 18:57 PM, edited 1 time in total.

Oh noes! The volcanic ash is interferring with the interweb cables now to!

Not sure what was happening, but is the stuff working again?

Forum was no accesable by me for some time but now it all works again.

Yeah , Disco was doing full server maintenance so the forums dipped out for a bit.

Experincing some pretty nasty lag again. Like, not being up to log into the server at all because hangs on black screen lag. Timed out once already and haven't done that in years. I miss the server being in the U.S.A.

Tracing route to www.amiaworld.net [84.243.255.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms <1 ms 4 ms mygateway1.ar7 [10.1.1.1]
2 40 ms 36 ms 39 ms 219-89-61-1.dialup.xtra.co.nz [219.89.61.1]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 54 ms 53 ms 54 ms ae4-10.akbr5.global-gateway.net.nz [202.37.244.2
21]
5 53 ms 53 ms 56 ms ae1-2.akbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.77
]
6 55 ms 54 ms 55 ms ae1-10.tkbr9.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.3
7]
7 184 ms 184 ms 186 ms 202.50.232.42
8 186 ms 183 ms 185 ms so-0-0-0.lebr6.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.120
.102]
9 218 ms 216 ms 217 ms 217.6.51.193
10 345 ms 344 ms 347 ms 217.239.40.181
11 372 ms 371 ms 365 ms 193.159.227.54
12 340 ms 341 ms 343 ms ae0-0.fra-006-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
207.93]
13 358 ms 343 ms 341 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
190.49]
14 374 ms 370 ms 371 ms Gi7-0-0.ams-koo-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.4
1.142]
15 372 ms 369 ms 368 ms PO10-0.rtm-vla-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.41
.205]
16 371 ms 369 ms * 217.118.121.134
17 375 ms 372 ms 375 ms csw-1.cpl-mkb.grafix.nl [217.67.247.26]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

Weird as the traceRT is just as normally disgusting as always for me.

Yups, that's not that bad. I'll have a look at the logs if I can find anything unusual. This happened at the time of posting?

Pretty much. The server was pretty full though, think 56 in A and 30 or so in B.

I have had some issues with my PC. I did a check, and I think it may have been my PC causing a good amount of it. Rather compounding the issue I have with connecting to the server from my location. Ah well.

Well, only A having the issue is rather peculiar, though. It may just be that the amount of players is pushing your connection over the edge.

Mmm... I think something is stressing the server a lot, not sure what it is. It just seems to start with a lot of of CPU overhead now and then and after that it never goes down again.

Sounds like a Blitzkreig.

I blame the kraut.

im no expert here but I got a theory, wut about system heat? CPU raising and not going back sounds like it could be caused by heat, at least, its a theory.

one thing I know, it lags more when its not like, 65 players, room full, if that gives you a time reference to work by. idk where on earth the servers are. but my ping is 78 and has been since yesterday.

Halp, epic lag

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